Talk:Illinois Freedom Bell

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DateProcessResult
November 15, 2007Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 11, 2007.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the Illinois Freedom Bell was submerged underwater in Geneva Lake for over 40 years before being surfaced and adopted as the official freedom bell of Illinois?

math major[edit]

I am pretty sure there is only one decade between 1910 and 1920! I leave it to someone who knows what is meant to consider altering the relevant sentence. Amity150 04:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I never got back to you on this. The exact date was found, so we shouldn't have to worry about this issue anymore! Thanks though.--Kranar drogin 02:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA on hold[edit]

  • Second sentence in the lead isn’t a sentence: “Located in Mt Morris, Illinois.”
  • Fixed, also clarified this is in the United States so there is no question whose Independence Day it is. IvoShandor 02:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think there should be a bit about what the Liberty Bell and July 4 is, instead of just linking to it, since this bell is a replica and used in the celebrations. Independence, Philadelphia and all that. I don’t think you should automatically assume that every reader will know that Independence Day is on Jly 4.
I changed the words of the link to Independence Day in the lead and in the first reference within the body of the text. IvoShandor 02:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • All instances of "Fourth of July" have been changed to "Independence Day". IvoShandor 03:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the physical description should go after the history. Since the bell was deliberately made as a replica, then the background history should proably go first so that people know why it was made in the first place.
  • Random things about the bell
  • Do we know the exact %copper and %Zinc or %Tin inside the bell?
Nope.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if there are regular amounts these metals are mixed in to form bronze? IvoShandor 02:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does the bell have any insriptions or patterns on it or is the surface totally smooth?
Bell has no inscriptions at all on it, and no article has stated that it does. I also reviewed the picture, no inscriptions.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A more detailed desription of the actual structure from which the bell is suspended is probably a good thing.
  • It is basically a glorified gazebo. I have added a bit about its location, and a reference to support that. There do not seem to be any other descriptions, I have a couple more sources to check still. IvoShandor 04:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we have any info on the blacksmith who did the casting?
Nope.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where was the bell cast? We know where it was first taken to but what was the departure point?
No Idea.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • When it was in Geneva Lake was it only used for religious purposes in Church. Was it used for July 4 stuff while in shurch?
None of the articles I have seen have any history prior to it falling in the church, and I have dug through a lot of periodicals.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we know anything about the surfacing procedure?
Nope.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we know the selling price?
Orginal selling price I assume, no history again.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we know who awarded the offical status? Which government official?
Yes, it states it in the article:
Five years later, in 1971, the bell was designated the Official Freedom Bell of the State of Illinois.[1][5] A plaque was added to the tower on July 4, 1972 with an inscription from Illinois Governor Richard B. Ogilvie that reads
Maybe we should clarrify this a bit more...--Kranar drogin 11:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • In what capacity did Reagan come in 1963?
  • I have elaborated this slightly to qualify Reagan as an "Illinois native" and "rising Republican political star," he had just switched parties a year earlier and gave a prominent speech a year later at the Republican National Convention.IvoShandor 02:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added a bit more about Reagan concerning the Freedom Bell when he was U.S. President, added a new ref too. IvoShandor 04:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date format is inconsistent. Some have “September 03” and others “10 September”
  • I believe this should be all fixed, I followed the format: September 10, 2007. IvoShandor 02:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will try and fix some of this in awhile here, if Ivo doesn't beat me too it. A lot of the history of the bell prior to it falling in church has been lost. I will see what I can dig up from my sources, but there is so little literature on this subject, that it is all very hard to find.--Kranar drogin 02:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with Kranar, we both spent time researching this. I will help dig too. IvoShandor 02:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well I think enough has done to pass GA atm. It would be better if there was more info, but a good effort has been made. Well done. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have put in requests with some other people for information, but I am not sure I will get it. Will try though to flesh out the article even more!--Kranar drogin 01:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

freedom bell about[edit]

tha freeedom bell is very lo9ng and nice go and watch it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.146.131.166 (talk) 22:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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