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I am reverting the two unhelpful edits by Common Man on January 5.Phase1 19:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why in the world you need to remove such relevant links as think-tank or History of South Africa in the apartheid era? Common Man 19:45, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was the "useful idiot" link in the willing allies section that was objectionable. The other helpful links have been restored.Phase1 21:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Thanks for restoring some.
  • useful idiot: I understand how this can raise emotions. However, the definition "willing, though possibly unwitting, allies" fits exactly the meaning of the term - except for the political side. I think the concept occurs a lot. Maybe there's a less emotional term for this concept - are you aware of any?
  • 1986: I'm easy about the year - although it is common practice to link it, so I don't see why you removed that.
  • [[History of South Africa in the apartheid era|apartheid South Africa]] vs [[History of South Africa in the apartheid era|apartheid]] [[South Africa]]: I disagree with you on this change. The article History of South Africa in the apartheid era clearly describes Apartheid South Africa and not just apartheid. So the link is now misleading. Moreover, it is much more likely in this context that a reader of this article would want to read the appropriate article about the South Africa of the time, rather than to a very general information about the country. (I believe that most readers already have at least a hunch what South Africa is in general.) Would you object if I made Apartheid South Africa a redirect to the History ... article? Common Man 22:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was wrong and you're quite right about the |apartheid South Africa link — please make the necessary redirect. As for wikifying years, I know that this is common practice, and used to do it myself until I read an exchange between an editor and an admin (SlimVirgin). The latter argued that without linking the month and day to a specific date, the link to the year was pointless.Phase1 13:16, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your honesty and understanding. So I'll revert the History ... link and leave the year unlinked. I'll ask SlimVirgin and see why she feels this way. I am also rewriting the useful idiots part so that it becomes a bit clearer why the link is there. It's still not perfect, and I'm certainly open to proposals to mitigate the emotional impact. Common Man 11:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio[edit]

This page started out as a pretty obvious copy of a Newsday article. I found the text here on the web. I don't have the whole text of the article but I would assume the whole thing is a copy with minor grammar changes. Needs to be rewritten. -Kwh 07:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your assumption is incorrect. I inaugurated the page last week and did not copy anything from the website you cite [1] which I note was dated April 8, 2005. A six-page summary of the Newsday article of Sunday, July 16, 1995 entitled Front for Apartheid was given as the "External link" to the International Freedom Foundation (IFF) page: [2]. If you read this link you can see clearly that the short IFF page cannot be "a copy with minor grammar changes." It is not a copyvio and I disagree that it needs to be rewritten.Phase1 11:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Phase1, the text you submitted is a substantial copy of whole paragraphs from the Newsday article. You are basically admitting that you copied the info from another person's website, whether you believed it to be a summary or not. Please see: Wikipedia:Copyrights#Contributors.27_rights_and_obligations. -Kwh 17:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As a result of this alleged copyvio, I have completely rewritten the article on the "Temp" page.Phase1 22:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cleanup[edit]

Cleanup needed because:

  • reference to tabloid rags
  • original research / unsourced
  • slight POV

Intangible 20:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Intangible's knickers are in a twist because of two categories added on July 2, 2006 by Ck4829: Foreign support of Apartheid and Jack Abramoff scandals. Both POV cats have since been deleted. There is therefore no need for the "cleanup" template, which I have now removed.Phase4 22:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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