Talk:Interrogation of Abu Zubaydah

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Shouldn't the lede say that he has been tortured? Brigittboat (talk) 07:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The lede (and the whole article) needs work. Feel free to edit as you see fit. I personally think he was tortured, but know that is not shared by all people, so I avoid saying it directly. Rather, I quote or paraphrase the most reliable source to make that statement. --Mnnlaxer (talk) 16:00, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just saw your POV tag. I think this tag is unjustified. In general, I am against slapping a tag on the whole article a section (Mnnlaxer (talk) 19:23, 31 January 2012 (UTC)) when there is one point being disputed. I would appreciate it if you took the article introduction tag off, and worked on resolving any specific problems on this talk page.[reply]
Please edit the article to improve it, rather than raise what seems like a rhetorical question on the talk page. --Mnnlaxer (talk) 16:07, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm removing the tag. --198.144.9.40 (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

moved section[edit]

The bullet points in this section are either not related to Zubaydah's interrogations (first two - #1 is footnote to #2) or I couldn't find in the report text (the rest).

9/11 Commission Report[edit]

Zubaydah's interrogations are cited frequently in the 9/11 Commission Report, although he is the sole person to make many of the claims.[citation needed] Human Rights Watch noted that "The 9/11 Commission report refers to the intelligence reports of seven interrogation sessions with Zubayda, dating from February 2002 to April 2004."[1] Based on Abu Zubaydah's confessions during these seven interrogation sessions, the 9/11 Commission Report alleged that:

  • Abu Zubaydah wrote in his diary in late 1992 that he was getting ready to go to an al Qaeda military camp. “Perhaps later I will tell you about the Qa’ida and Bin Ladin group.”[2]
  • Abu Zubaydah was a “sympathetic peer” of Osama bin Laden.[2]
  • Abu Zubaydah was reportedly complimentary of Khalid Sheikh Muhammed’s leadership abilities giving praise for his ability to incorporate the improvements suggested by others.[2]
  • Abu Zubaydah allegedly played a key role in facilitating the travel of al Qaeda operatives, along with Khalid Sheikh Muhammed.[2]
  • Abu Zubaydah was planning to attack Israel in 2001.[2]

--Mnnlaxer (talk) 18:42, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "The United States' "Disappeared": The CIA's Long-Term "Ghost Detainees"". Human Rights Watch. October 2004.
  2. ^ a b c d e Cite error: The named reference 9/11CommissionReport was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

another moved section[edit]

The interrogation tapes section is largely outside the scope of this article, which has a See also for the main article about the tapes' destruction. Here is what used to be in the section:

Several requests for the videotapes were made by judges, government organizations, and non-governmental organizations. The ACLU requested copies of the tapes under a Freedom of Information Act, but was rebuffed by the CIA.[1] The ACLU would later file legal action against the CIA wherein New York District Court Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein stated he was “disappointed” the agency destroyed the tapes and believes the court was “gulled.”[2] The CIA also denied the existence of the tapes to the 9/11 Commission Report during its investigation.[3][4] In November 2005, during a pending Guantanamo case, U.S. District Court Judges Gladys Kessler, Richard W. Roberts, and Henry H. Kennedy ordered the preservation of the CIA’s interrogation tapes as evidence for the cases before it.[5] In addition, the Judge presiding over Zacarias Moussaoui’s criminal case, Leonie M. Brinkema, had also requested the tapes only to be told they did not exist.[6] The CIA was advised by top lawyers at the White House and the Justice Department not to destroy the interrogation tapes.[7] Michael Hayden, the Director of Central Intelligence, sent a letter to CIA staff, briefing them on the tape's destruction.[8] Hayden asserted that key members of Congress had been briefed on the existence of the tapes, and the plans for their destruction.[8] United States Senator Jay Rockefeller, the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, disputed Hayden's assertion, saying that he only learned of the tapes in 2006, a year after their destruction.[3] Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, who was one of just four senior members of Congress who was briefed on the existence of the tapes, acknowledged being briefed.[9] Harman responded to Hayden's assertions by stating she had objected, in writing, to the tapes' destruction, and that it would "put the CIA under a cloud of suspicion."[10][11] However, the CIA did not comply with any of the advice or the 17 orders from various judges and courts and destroyed the tapes.[6][9][12] The Department of Justice is now investigating the CIA’s destruction of the tapes[7] and has appointed John Durham as the special prosecutor for the case. [13]

Originally, the CIA claimed that only two videotapes and one audiotape had been destroyed.[14] In all, however, the CIA destroyed 92 tapes of interrogations, of which 90 were of Abu Zubaydah, and 12 depicted his waterboarding. [15][16][17] The tapes were held in a safe in the CIA's secret prison in Thailand.[16][18]

--Mnnlaxer (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ ACLU, NYCLU Ask Court to Hold CIA in Contempt New York Civil Liberties Union, December 12, 2007
  2. ^ Alan Feuer Judge May Question C.I.A. Agents About Tapes New York Times, February 17, 2008
  3. ^ a b Eggen, Dan; Warrick, Joby (December 7, 2007). "CIA Destroyed Videos Showing Interrogations". Washington Post. Retrieved January 31, 2012.
  4. ^ Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton Stonewalled by the C.I.A. New York Times, January 2, 2008
  5. ^ CIA Destroyed Interrogation Videotapes Despite Court Orders FOX News, December 12, 2007
  6. ^ a b Mark Mazzetti and Scott Shane C.I.A. Destroyed Tapes as Judge Sought Interrogation Data New York Times, February 7, 2008
  7. ^ a b Mazzetti, Mark; Johnston, David (December 9, 2007). "Inquiry Begins Into Destruction of Tapes". New York Times. Retrieved January 31, 2012.
  8. ^ a b David Welna Congress Calls for Hearings About CIA Tapes NPR, December 7, 2007
  9. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference PamelaHess was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  10. ^ Representative Jane Harman Warned Against CIA Tape Destruction in 2003 Letter Fox News, January 3, 2008
  11. ^ David Johnston An Inquiry Seen as Payback in a Rivalry New York Times, January 4, 2008
  12. ^ Scott Shane Prosecutor to Review Official Handling of C.I.A. Tapes New York Times, February 10, 2008
  13. ^ Donna Leinwand Criminal probe opened over CIA videotapes USA Today, January 2, 2008
  14. ^ Oliver Burkeman The Guardian, March 2, 2009
  15. ^ ACLU
  16. ^ a b Mark Mazetti The New York Times, March 6, 2009
  17. ^ Ann Wright Bybee and Peterson: Two Mormons, Two Different Ethics on Torture The Huffington Post, April 30, 2009
  18. ^ Mark Mazetti The New York Times, March 2, 2009

Citations needed[edit]

As early as May, 2002, officials stated they doubted the veracity of Abu Zubaydah’s warnings.[citation needed] And by August 2002, on-scene CIA interrogators were already reporting to CIA Headquarters that Abu Zubaydah had no more actionable intelligence.[citation needed] --198.144.9.40 (talk) 18:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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