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Requested move[edit]

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The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED, per unopposed request. -GTBacchus^(talk) 09:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian Britons → British Iranians — Google search suggests that "Iranian Britons" is a made-up term that appears only on Wikipedia and its clones.[1] "British Iranians" appears in several non-wikipedia sources.[2] — Cop 663 (talk) 12:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Title[edit]

This page is about British people of Iranian descent and its title should be Iranian British. British Iranians should be about Iranian citizens of British descent. Alefbe (talk) 07:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is wrong. There is no such convention in the English language, this is only an American convention and it does not apply outside of the United States. The Iranian community in the United Kingdom should be called whatever reliable sources call them, which is NOT "Iranian British". As was already established in the move request above, "Iranian Britons" is a term entirely invented by Wikipedians and has no usage in the real world. cab (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well to be honest, considering my heritage I would rather be called Iranian British because I am a person with Iranian blood and to be called 'British' is insulting to my race and culture. Period. --Da Dashz (talk) 19:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics[edit]

The article says "The Office for National Statistics estimates that, in 2008, 60,000 Iranian-born people were living in the UK" but I looked at the statistics and it actually says 54000 in the whole UK; so where did the 60,000 come from? 94.195.72.113 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]

I've checked the source and it says 60,000. Perhaps you were looking at the wrong part of the spreadsheet? Cordless Larry (talk) 09:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Remove part which suggests that all food is prepared by women in Iranian households[edit]

Under the 'Cuisine' headline is it really necessary to write that "most such food is prepared by women and consumed at home in a family context"? This is sexist and very untrue actually.. It's not like in Iranian culture the women are the only one's who stay in the kitchen. Actually in my home, the person who cooks the most food is my dad, NOT my mum, and it will be like this in many Iranian households all across the UK too. It would be best to just state that most Iranian food is prepared and consumed at home in a family context, without mentioning the sexist comment that it is all made by women. Furthermore, Iranian cuisine is not unsuccessful in comparison to most other ethnic cuisines in the UK. It is really only Chinese, Indian and Italian food that can be considered as more successful than Iranian cuisine in the UK, with Iranian cuisine being more on the same level as MOST other ethnic cuisines such as Thai, and being more successful than even cuisines such as Greek, Arabic and Spanish etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.5.148 (talk) 21:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We go by what the sources say, not by personal experiences of your dad cooking. And the sources in this case include an entire book specifically devoted to the intersection of food and gender among the Iranian community in the UK --- i.e. a scholar has looked into this matter and drawn those conclusions summarised in the article. If you disagree, find other sources (books and academic papers) which respond to Harbottle's book and question her assumptions --- don't just erase it because your personal experience disagrees with published research. cab (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Outdated references[edit]

This article references a book published in 2004 for current data (eg 'Most adults are themselves immigrants; the second generation are quite young, and so there are relatively few adults of Iranian background born and raised in the UK.") As this information is 20 years old it seems unlikely to be relevant and should either be removed or updated with a more recent source. 86.5.73.15 (talk) 15:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]