Talk:Irish people in mainland Europe

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Ronhjones ^(Talk) 01:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

European Irish → ~~Irish people in Continental Europe~~ Irish people in mainland Europe— As this is what this article is about, Irish people in Continental Europe. "European Irish" is an absolutely horrible neologistic title, completely contrived and meaningless, since the Irish are a European people while Ireland is part of the European Union. No references to support "European Irish" as being used by any reliable sources. See similarly titled articles, such as Irish people in Jamaica, Chinese people in Germany, Koreans in Japan and French people in Korea.—84.92.117.93 (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Johnbod (talk) 02:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom although some might dispute that Irish are Europeans. — AjaxSmack 05:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/Question I've found many other ethnicity articles named with other conventions. Some have been moved back and forth, cited as neologisms. Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups#Article naming, there is no consensus on this issue. Is there a naming convention mentioned anywhere? Ruodyssey (talk) 06:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the general idea is that these articles should be titled "[ethic group] in [country]", unless another term is in popular usage or is more accurate, such as Irish Americans or Black British. This is currently quite inconsistant though, and lots of articles should probably be moved. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 13:44, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose use Irish people of mainland Europe instead, it seems to be what is used in Irish English to refer to Europe excluding its island appendages. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide sources to back up that claim? I'm not sure that Irish English differs much from the British or American varieties in this respect. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 13:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the article you linked to? Continental Europe 70.29.210.242 (talk) 09:38, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, no, sorry it seems you're right. I've ammended my move request so that it now reads "Irish people in mainland Europe", though I don't think it malkes a huge difference either way. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 23:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, and after it's moved, it needs to be edited and referenced. This article was started by people associated with a website called European Irish (hence the name) and most of the content taken from there.

It is one of the most contrived, unencyclopaedic articles I've ever come across. Example: "We find Irish playing here with local soccer, rugby , darts and GAA clubs here; quite often these clubs are set-up by those in the Irish communities here." Who's we? Wikipedia? Where are the population statistics from? The pub statistics?--Damac (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.