Talk:Iskaq Tjokrohadisurjo/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Golden (talk · contribs) 18:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I'll review this article over the next few days. — Golden ^{call me maybe?} 18:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Lead

• Originating in - A better word here would be "Born in" or "Hailing from".

• Changed

• Wikilink Surakarta.

• Done

• What is PNI?

• De-abbreviated

• Briefly introduce Sukarno.

• Done, with "President"

Early life and career

• Move the wikilink for Javanese people to the word "Javanese" in the phrase His parents were Javanese nobility.

• Done

• What is "Perhimpoenan Indonesia"?

• Nationalist student organization. Added.

Early political career

• Briefly introduce Sartono, Ali Sastroamidjojo, and Wiryono Kusumo.

• Added, added, removed

• The first two sentences could be merged as "..founded the first native Indonesian law office in Batavia.."

• Fair enough, merged

• Move the wikilink for Bandung to its first mention.

• Done

• whom he thought would fit in better in Bandung - Do we know why he thought this?

• Not explained in source. I can postulate because Bandung was a much cooler place (temperature wise) for Europeans, but that's WP:RS.

• When the Indonesian National Party (PNI) was founded in 1927, Iskaq was one of its co-founders - This could be shortened to "Iskaq co-founded the Indonesian National Party (PNI) in 1927.."

• Updated

• Briefly introduce Sukarno.

• "future President" work?

• Iskaq was arrested due to involvement in PNI - Can you provide some context as to why involvement in PNI became a problem in 1929, when it seemingly wasn’t in 1927?

• Not sure how to. It could very much have been that it only got big enough to be worrying in 1929, but I could not find this explicitly stated.

• Briefly introduce Soenario.

• Added

• What is Partindo?

• Will that suffice?

• Briefly introduce Sudiro.

• Added

• It would be helpful to include a brief description of the Renville Agreement.

• Added.

Cabinet Minister: 1951–1954

• brought him into conflict with the Masyumi Party - Why? It would be helpful to have some context here.

• Added

• Sudiro has already been wikilinked, so the second link should be removed.

• Done

• Briefly introduce Daud Beureu'eh.

• Would that be good?

• enroll a son - "his son" would be a better choice.

• Updated

Later career and death

• Can you provide a brief description of the 30 September Movement?

• That way?

References

• Spot-checked references #1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 20, 29, 41, 42
• I couldn't find any information about Iskaq working as "an advocate at the Surabaya High Court" in reference #3. Could you provide the exact quote?

• Third page of the article. "Mr. Iskaq pernah memimpin Partindo Cabang Manado. Pada saat bersamaan ia juga mengelola kantor hukum di sana. Tetapi setelah mengalami masa-masa suram di sana, ia kembali ke Surabaya dan menjadi advocaat en procureur di Pengadilan Tinggi Surabaya (1933-1944)."

• You're missing page number for ref #29.

• Updated

• I could not verify ref #6 for the sentence Iskaq refused to participate in the new party.

• Second page of the article. "PNI keok pada Pemilu pertama Orde Baru pada 1971, dan dipaksa berfusi dengan partai-partai nasionalis lain pada 10 Januari 1973. Iskaq menolak masuk Partai Demokrasi Perjuangan hasil fusi itu."

• Link for ref #42 is broken.

• That one should be considered an offline newspaper source - paywalls, auths, and whatnot. I'll remove the hyperlink.

General comments

• Earwig's copyvio detector did not detect any copyright violations.
• Images are relevant and free. The images need US tags.
• I enjoyed reading this article and look forward to seeing your revisions in response to my points. — Golden ^{call me maybe?} 20:56, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Juxlos: Great work on the changes so far! Do you need more time to complete the remaining edits? — Golden ^{call me maybe?} 16:35, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

  Yep, give me the weekend, haven’t had the time to go back to the book sources. Juxlos (talk) 00:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

  Of course. Take your time. — Golden ^talk 08:30, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

  I think that's all. Juxlos (talk) 15:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Juxlos: I have one more comment: the article has a few cases of false titles (i.e. "parliamentary speaker" instead of "the parliamentary speaker"), which I would recommend fixing if you plan on taking this article further. However, that's too minor of an issue to hold this article any longer, therefore I will be passing. Congratulations! — Golden ^talk 20:19, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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