Talk:Italians in Germany

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Leonardo Dicaprio[edit]

What's Leonardo diCaprio name's doing in this article? He is an American, with ancestors from both Germany and Italy. He is not Italo-German. Opinoso (talk) 21:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. About the same goes for Terence Hill. He lived in Germany for two years! We're gonna remove both names.--VKing (talk) 22:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, the following two names might be added, because both persons have the German nationality, but look very Italian: Wolfgang Overath, Helmut Kohl. --VKing (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Page move[edit]

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The result of the move request was page moved. —harej (talk) 20:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Italo-Germans → Italians in Germany — Per similar move of Italian settlers in Libya. The most common form in Google books is "Italians * in Germany" where * = employed, working, living, etc. The very first GBooks hit in fact uses "Italian Germans" to refer to Germans in Italy. A reliable source explicitly states that the current article title/lead is wrong. See the quote at right. Thanks, cab (talk) 16:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The nature of states in Europe, with its longer tradition of nationalism and nation-building, makes it difficult in the political sense to refer to recent Turkish immigrants in Sweden as Turkish-Swedes or Chilean immigrants as Chilean-Swedes. Nor are Turks and Italians in Germany referred to as Turkish-Germans or Italian-Germans. We have less difficulty in the United States referring to Italian-Americans, Swedish-Americans, and Turkish-Americans (although we are likely to refer to Chilean-Americans as Hispanics). The multiple ethnic (in the specific sense of national origins) identities that characterize the United States are certainly not unique, but they are peculiar when compared to the European context.

Kertzer, David I.; Arel, Dominique (2002), Census and identity: the politics of race, ethnicity, and language in national census, Cambridge University Press, p. 73, ISBN 9780521004275

Also, it's ambiguous. I thought when I saw this move request that it was another part of the eternal controversy about the Germans of the South Tyrol. Move.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Organised crime[edit]

I removed "organised crime" from the "employment" sections (which is already quite silly), there are more italian researchers, bankers, professors than italian criminals in Germany.

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Multiple issues[edit]

A couple of issues I'd like to fix:

Take out the section on organized crime. Mafia activity might have a place in the article, but only with context and as part of a larger section.
Take out the lists of notable people and football players (maybe make them their own pages)
Rename the "social integration" section to "cultural contributions" or similar and expand significantly.

...for a start. Italian-Germans form one of the biggest immigrant groups and there's a wealth of information on them. --Tserton (talk) 08:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]