Talk:Jaguar catshark

Galápagos or Galapagos?

What body is considered authoritative for giving the common name of a fish? Do they generally use English or local versions of place names for the English common name? Even if they do use the local name, do they usually attach accents and other diacritics? Can't help wodering whether the article shouldn't be at Bythaelurus giddingsi until the common name is more than simply a "proposed" common name. Kevin McE (talk) 18:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Unless there is another common name in use for this fish, or this name is used for some other species, then Galapagos catshark would appear to satisfy criterion 1.i. of the fish projects criteria for article titles. As for the diacritics, don't think they should be used here for an English article title. Rlendog (talk) 19:08, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to relevant criteria. However, Google search suggests >95% prevalence of Galapagos without an accent. Will move page. Kevin McE (talk) 20:05, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

And that was reverted on the grounds of http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/zt03221p059.pdf. Which leaves me wondering, what of http://grist.org/list/new-species-alert-check-out-the-galapagos-catshark/, http://www.calacademy.org/newsroom/releases/2012/catshark.php, http://www.thedorsalfin.com/tag/galapagos-catshark/, http://www.calacademy.org/newsroom/releases/2012/catshark.php, http://scitechdaily.com/new-shark-species-bythaelurus-giddingsi-discovered-in-galapagos-islands/, http://sciencythoughts.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-species-of-catshark-from-galapogus.html, http://www.speakupforblue.com/in-ocean-news/new-shark-species-discovered-in-galapagos-deep-sea, http://kevinswildside.wordpress.com/tag/galapagos-catshark/, http://gordonwhite.co.uk/2012/03/meet-the-galapagos-catshark-internets/, http://www.sharksavers.org/en/education/shark-species-introduction/56-ground-sharks.html?showall=1, http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=223624, http://www.tfhmagazine.com/blogs/2012/03/08/new-shark-species-discovered/, http://www.saluxuryexpeditions.com/wordpress/2012/03/more-unique-wildlife-living-in-the-galapagos-new-shark-species-discovered/, http://inagist.com/grist/178689213804457984/, etc etc etc? I know that some of these are not the highest grade of scientific journal, but the mapress.com article only talks of the accented version as a proposed common name. The overwhelming evidence at this stage is that that proposal has not been taken up. The accented version of the name does not seem to meet any of the criteria in the link provided by Rlendog above: it may be that the non-accented version is also thought not to either, in which case the article should be at the binomial. The English language name of the islands is written without an accent: we refer to the Greenland halibut, not the Kalaallisut halibut. Kevin McE (talk) 23:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was not moved. Since the discussion was rather sparse, I also checked on the relevant project and other supporting articles. Galápagos wildlife uses the diacritic, but only roughly half of the articles with Galápagos in the title that it links to use the diacritic. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ecuador/Galápagos_Islands_task_force however, uses the diacritic throughout. While it doesn't explicitly request or require the diacritic, I believe it does so implicitly. I may be in the wrong, but I feel this is the better decision for the encyclopedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Galápagos catshark → Galapagos catshark – Although a formal source has listed the accented version of the name as a proposed common name, Google hits make it clear that the version of the name that has received common support is unaccented. Normal English version of name of place after which animal is named. See above, and note preference of article creator. Kevin McE (talk) 07:36, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Survey

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Discussion

Any additional comments:

• Mandarax, in twice moving the article and talk page away from the original editor's preference and showing scant regard for the principle of using the RM procedure for controversial moves, although his first move had been reversed, managed to split the article from the talk page: this section, and the one above, have been transferred from the orphaned Talk:Galapagos catshark. Kevin McE (talk) 19:38, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
• I surveyed the dictionaries and found that Merriam Webster, Random House, Collins, and American Heritage all give the islands with a diacritic. Meanwhile, Oxford goes diacritic-free. Our own Galápagos Islands article has a diacritic. Kauffner (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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