Talk:Janata Dal (Samajbadi Prajatantrik)

Does this party still exist?[edit]

I do not believe so?

According to "Leftist parties of the World", the most accorate source of information on this on the Web, it is probably dissolved?

http://www.broadleft.org/np.htm

Parties probably disbanded - - - Nepal Socialist People's Party (Nepal Samajbadi Janata Dal),

Togrim, user of the Norwegian Wikipedia.

See List of political parties registered ahead of the 2006 Nepalese municipal election. --Soman 09:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a real party?[edit]

I can't find any evidence that this is the WP:COMMONNAME of any formerly or presently existing party. My attempts at researching this are somewhat obfuscated by the existence of multiple other parties with very similar names (notably, Samajbadi Prajatantrik Janata Party Nepal— note that "Dal" mean "Party"). This article, as well as that for Keshar Jung Rayamajhi, claim that Rayamajhi founded this party. This article has no sources; the article on Rayamajhi cites this (PDF warning). However this PDF only lists Rayamajhi running under a party whose initialism is "JD". Nowhere does it tell us what this stands for, but assuming it stands for Janata Dal, this is not the same thing as the title of this article.

Can anyone provide better evidence that this party actually existed? The mere fact that localizing such proof is this hard suggests the article fails to meet notability guidelines, but I want to first establish whether it even exists before broaching the topic of deletion— especially since Rayamajhi himself clearly does meet notability requirements, so his article will need to be revised (to either delete references to the party or to provide a better source). Brusquedandelion (talk) 12:44, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Soman, the creator of this article. Brusquedandelion (talk) 13:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It existed[1]. What to call it and whether it needs its own article is a different question. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, best source I could find that gives a Nepali name:[2] — Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Usedtobecool Thanks. I found another PDF hosted at the same website as the the PDF cited at Keshar Jung Rayamajhi where there is a key that has the abbreviation JD indexed with "Janata Dal (Socialist-Democratic)". IMO I'm not convinced this party meets notability guidelines at all, but based on these sources it definitely looks like the WP:COMMONNAME is Janata Dal (Socialist-Democratic) and the page should be moved to that. What do you think (on both points—notability and page name)? Brusquedandelion (talk) 19:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We find the party mentioned here, https://breaknlinks.com/nepali/news/35160430 , in Nepali name. --Soman (talk) 20:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Soman Thanks. I see that (जनता दल (समाजवादी प्रजातान्त्रिक)) as with the URL Usedtobecool provided. However, it doesn't seem like this is the English WP:COMMONNAME; though this is hard to ascertain given how rare the party is mentioned in English language reliable sources, from the few we have, it looks like the common name is Janata Dal (Socialist-Democratic). How would you feel about moving the page there? Brusquedandelion (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My link says जनता दल (समाजवादी–प्रजातन्त्रवादी) which isn't exactly the same. I could go for the English name which works as a translation for either, I think. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 01:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]