Talk:Japanese Sign Language

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References[edit]

Is the "Ethnologue report" link worth including? It doesn't seem to be of much value. --Sakurambo 16:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources are needed, e.g. for the earliest reference to JSL and/or the deaf community; the dates of founding the first school for the deaf and for the 1948 law requiring deaf children to undergo formal education.

There should also be sources linking to articles describing JSL features - mouthing, topic-comment formation, and the introduction of fingerspelling.

It would be useful to expand the content with regard to mouthing - for example, why is disambiguation more necessary than in other languages? and the finger-writing in the air is also an interesting feature which is possibly more distinctively Japanese - does this also exist in Chinese SL? It is not characteristic of European sign languages that I know of and possibly therefore demonstrates possibly a strong influence from the written language [if sources can be found to back this up or an expert who can expand this article!]

Are there any websites to link to as sources for the television programmes? Vandenwyngaerde 00:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My guess would be that the reason for the greater use of mouthing is that the manual syllabry is a more recent development. ASL's manual alphabet is actually older than the language itself, and has thus been present since the beginning of the language. ASL uses a large number of initialized signs. If JSL doesn't use initialized signs, or at least not as many, it could explain why mouthing is more necessary; mouthing serves the same function as, e.g., the use of initializing does in distinguishing the ASL signs for "family", "class", and so forth. Nik42 (talk) 01:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs to be reorganized S. 19:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nihon.ai (talk • contribs)

It would be good to have a source or a reliable data to show the increase of JSL night classes for the hearing.Kazito (talk) 03:10, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the section of Diffusion of JSL among the hearing, it would be better to include a viewpoint from Japanese deaf community, such as how they react to the fact that they are feautured in entertainment, which is mostly done by people with hearing. Kazito (talk) 03:21, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Image from Imperial Household Agency website[edit]

An uploaded image of Princess Akishino signing at a Deaf event was improperly uploaded from the Imperial Household Agency website.. A careful examination of the fair use rationale revealed critical flaws which could not be resolved. A summary is archived below.

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Non-free use rationale
  (in Japanese) http://www.kunaicho.go.jp/activity/activity/03/activity03-ph.html
  • Portion = The entire photograph is used to convey the impression intended by the Imperial Household Agency (Kunaicho) and to avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image.
  • Low resolution = The digitized image of the original photograph is a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by Kunaicho without being unnecessarily high resolution.
  • Purpose = The significance of the image is to help the reader (a) to identify the use of JSL by a member of the Japanese Imperial family, (b) to show the use of JSL in the context of actual communication, (c) to assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about JSL, and (d) to illustrate the subject of JSL in a way that words alone could not convey.
  • Replaceability = Because it is a Kunaicho photograph, there is almost certainly no free equivalent. Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the impression intended by Kunaicho, would tarnish or misrepresent Princess Akishino's image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary.
  • Other information = This image comes from the Imperial Household web page which gives it a unique historical imprimatur.

    This image is a faithful digitisation of a unique event in which Princess Akishino participated; and in this context, she signed a message to the deaf Japanese in her audience in 2005. The image of the Princess at a Deaf event plus the image of her gestures and hand signing plus her facial expression plus the plain black dress she chose to wear so that her signs could be seen by her audience are the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role).

The discussion thread about deleting this file is archived at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2010 December 4#File:Princess Akishino JSL.jpg

The image was removed from the article about Japanese Sign Language (JSL).

If another image of the Princess using JSL is uploaded, it would enhance the quality of the article about JSL. In addition, it would be good addition to this article about the princess. --Tenmei (talk) 00:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Problem with Se...[edit]

I think the japanese government should change the JSL sign for Se... 97.95.160.67 —Preceding undated comment added 22:19, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

320k speakers, or 60k?[edit]

I reverted the number of speakers in the info box to the Ethnologue figure. The IP who changed it added the following to the text -- 

According to the Japanese Association for Sign Language Studies [ref>Itida, Y. Japanese Association for Sign Language Studies. The Estimated Population of #Japanese Sign Language Users. Retrieved June, 2001.</ref], the estimate number of JSL users is around 60,000 in Japan.

But that's not adequate to ID the ref. If someone can verify, please restore and fix. — kwami (talk) 03:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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