Talk:Jerry Avenaim/Archive 1

Just got these from external links

Just got these from external links, dumping them here in case they may prove useful someday.

• Photoinsider Magazine Cover Story
• The Mamiya Master Showcase Gallery and Interview

The article does not appear to have more than one independent, reliable source (others clearly run back to this photographer; even the one that may be reliable i'm uncertain about). At any rate, i've added a sourcing tag.Bali ultimate (talk) 15:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

The one source

... looks kind of iffy as i investigate. It's takegreatpictures.com, which is "brought to you by the PhotoImaging Information Council" which sounds more like an industry/promotional group rather than a reliable, independent source. Ah, [[1]] this describes what the information council is: It's "sponsored by PMDA (PhotoImaging Manufacturers and Distributors Association), PMA (Photo Marketing Association) and leading manufacturers in the photographic and digital imaging fields."

As such it looks more and more like an industry promotional source. If the conesnus is i'm write about this (i'll ask around) this whole article may have to go.Bali ultimate (talk) 15:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sources section

Just dumping here. Shouldn't be in article. If any of these are reliable sources with new, relevant info, should be woven into text and cited.

• Mark Lapin. "Jerry Avenaim - The Attraction of Heavenly Bodies". The PhotoImaging Information Council, TakeGreatPictures.com. Retrieved 2008-01-01.
• "Out-takes and asides from TGP's interview with Avenaim". The PhotoImaging Information Council, TakeGreatPictures.com. Retrieved 2008-01-01.
• Alice B. Miller (March 2007). "Absolutely Avenaim". Studio Photography & Design, Volumn 6/Issue 3, Cygnus Publication. p. 14. Retrieved 2008-01-01.
• Jason Schneider (August 2005). "Power Lighting On Location!; Studio-Quality Lighting With Minimum Gear: Four Masters Reveal Their Secrets". ShutterBug Magazine. Retrieved 2008-01-01.
• Jason Schneider. "Behind the Shot". Photo District News. Retrieved 2008-01-01.
• "Lighting Techniques for the Dramatic Portrait". Retrieved 2008-01-21.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bali ultimate (talk • contribs)

I am not certain where it says that Jason Schneider is author of that article for VisionAge "Behind the Shot: Jerry Avenaim", so I have attributed it in the citation to "VisionAge staff". Cirt (talk) 22:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Note

I am in contact with the subject of this article through the WP:OTRS system, and am in the process of trying to improve the article with additional secondary sources. Input is welcome. Cirt (talk) 21:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Got a bit of the sourcing work done, still in process of doing some more research/rewrite/sourcing. Cirt (talk) 01:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Nice work, Cirt! --Eustress (talk) 03:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Cirt (talk) 03:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced, moved from article to talk page

Unsourced, moved from article to talk page. Cirt (talk) 10:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

From section - Early life

At the beginning of his career Avenaim created advertisements and major catalogs for clients including Marshall Fields, Macy's, Dayton Hudson and Bloomingdale's in addition to his editorial magazine assignments. His first advertising assignment was through Young & Rubicam in 1988. Avenaim photographed Brooke Shields for the Durasoft Contact Lens campaign.