Talk:Jill Churchill

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Marriage(s) and names[edit]

"Jill Churchill (born Janice Young Brooks ... "Now divorced, she lives in Kansas."

Married once?

We list one book published 1983 as by Jean Brooks-Janowiak (identified at LC with no catalog records under that name [1]).

Is Janowiak a husband's name? is any other of her surnames?

Is Jill Churchill simply a pen name dating from the first Jane Jeffry novel?

In the lead we say "Jane Jeffrey". ...

--P64 (talk) 14:00, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Official website http://cozybooks.com is down now. --P64 (talk) 14:05, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect pen names[edit]

According to P64 the external links confirm that Churchill also used the pen names of Anne Merton Abbey, Jean Brooks-Janoviak, and Valerie Vayle. Of those links, the first two only mention each other and Valerie Vayle, not Churchill or her birth name, Janice Young Brooks. The third does mention Janice Young Brooks. However, according to Great Women Mystery Writers, Churchill wrote three of the Valerie Vayle novels, but not the others. Rather, "Valerie Vayle" seems to have been a shared pesudonym, used by both Churchill/Brooks and her sister-in-law, Jean Brooks-Janoviak. Compare for example Goodreads or the isfdb. Now Goodreads and isfdb usually wouldn't be particularly strong sources, but I'd say they suffice to establish that Brooks and Brooks-Janowiak are different people that cooperated as "Valerie Vayle". Another confirmation for the "coauthor" status of the "Valerie Vayle" pen names comes from Contemporary Authors, vol. 39. Compare also this help request. Huon (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You shouldn't simply delete external links such as these, which seem to identify each of the four names (as well as Churchill) with Janice Young Brooks in one fashion or another.

Anne Merton Abbey, Janice Young Brooks, Jean Brooks-Janowiak, Amanda Singer and Valerie Vayle at LC Authorities with 1, 7, 0, 0 and 3 records

Those pages show that the Library of Congress thinks Jill Churchill is a pseudonym of Janice Young Brooks and that the four other names are names under which works written by Brooks, or at least co-written by her, have been published. LC has assigned lifespan "1943–" to several identities (ie, several creators of books by name) because it identifies them as Brooks (at least in part).

Janice Young Brooks at Library of Congress, with 7 library catalog records

Try to explain the relation of each to Brooks: not a pseudonym but a real name sometimes confused with Brooks; a joint pseudonym consistently for work co-written by Brooks and someone else; a pseudonym shared by different people writing alone; etc.

(Our text now says nothing at all to suggest that Brooks/Churchill wrote or shared in writing anything that was published under any name but those two. Nor does it identify any other real person with whom she jointly wrote any published work, or with whose writings her own were jointly marketed by serial use of the same pseudonym. A glance at its history suggests that little content if any has ever been deleted from this page.)

If we have reliable sources for one or more of the five names other than Brooks, then we/I can submit some correction to LC, but such basic information about the person's career belongs in her biography. I will be happy to write up some correction from content that other editors add to the biography with sources.

Because Jill Churchill rather than Janice Young Brooks is the current article name, it is the one of five other names most important to cover adequately. --P64 (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]