Talk:Jim Rhodes

What he ordered for Kent State should be included in his bio

, not just what he said beforehand. It makes it seem like he was just a commentator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.19.84 (talk) 00:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Cecil Rhodes

Is Jim Rhodes descendant of Cecil Rhodes? In the first part of the article it says that his family was part of the mine industry; so was Cecil Rhodes. What is their connection? Sorry for my english.

No, James Allen Rhodes was not a descendant of Cecil Rhodes (1853-1902). His parents, James Allen Rhodes Sr (1880-1918?) and Susan Anne Howe (1884-????), were not observably of Welsh descent either, although many residents of Coalton and Jackson County were. J A Rhodes Sr was the son of Ellison Andrew Rhodes (1857-1946), an indigent coal miner, and his wife Sarah Lincoln Crotty (1862-1914); the 1880 census found them in the county poor house; Rhodes was a Kentucky native and Crotty was from the portion of Virginia around Gauley Bridge that later became West Virginia. Crotty's parents were an Orange Irish immigrant and a Society of Friends descendant of several tidewater Virginia families, John Crotty and Ann Eliza Hanks (also my ancestors). In census returns Ellison Rhodes identified his parents as coming from Ohio. If Welsh descent appears in his ancestry, it comes through the Howe family. Genehisthome (talk) 00:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Blogs as sources

I note that this removal had the comment that 'blogs are not reliable sources'. While personal blogs generally are not reliable sources, the fact that the Ohio Historical Society chooses to use the blog form to publish should not make them any less good a source than if they used a different medium to place their content online. - Jmabel | Talk 20:32, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

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Link to nightriders takes you to a fantasy game cite instead of giving information about nightriders, which I think were southern KKK types. 16:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC) == Kent State and Jim Rhodes == This is the first time I've submitted a discussion, so please bare with me. The longer we go since the Kent State shootings, the more Jim Rhodes gets blamed for them. I am in no way denying that he did what he did, I just don't think everyone has the full explanation of what happened. Jim Rhodes spent countless hours flying to many college campuses that year trying to avoid what happened at Kent State. The big hotbed of activitiy was always Miami, so that's where they spent a lot of time. Governor Rhodes would get on his airplane at 2 a.m. to head down there. He would get there and several people claiming to be students were locked in the President's office and wouldn't come out. He knew these people on a first name basis because they went to a lot of campuses in the State pretending to be students. Woody Hayes offered many times to go with the Governor trying to help him out. In many of these campus uprisings, it was people portraying themselves as students that were causing all the problems, not the actual students. The week before Kent state, a State official had gone to the campus trying to keep things under control. The airplane arrived back in Columbus riddled with bullet holes. I know about the countless trips because my Godfather was the director of aviation for the State at the time and was the one flying him. My father went with them on some of the trips. I believe the Governor had been at Kent several days before the shootings happened. The 'students' who weren't really students left him basically no choice but to call out the guards trying to protect the real students. Unfortunately, we all know that didn't happen and several of them were killed. However, I think in today's society the news wants to blame someone and it's always Jim Rhodes. He did everything humanly possible to stop it. If you need to blame someone, I think the individuals who stired the campus up and threw the feces on the guards and pointed guns at them are the ones who should be looked at and thought about. It's a terrible shame that students lost their lives this day. It simply didn't have to happen. Had the riots not been caused it would have never happened. Asnodgra 17:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)asnodgra I believe that Jim Rhodes was not of Welsh descent. He was born in an area of heavy Welsh settlement, but I would like to have a source.156.63.68.207 (talk) 18:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)iwerdhon

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Article is negative political propaganda, not objective historical info. Needs total rewrite

At first blush, the minute I opened this page, I noticed that the introduction only mentions the big black eye Governor Rhodes has for sending in the National Guard, as if that is the only important thing he ever did, and nothing good at all about him is mentioned in the introduction. The next numerous paragraphs are written in a condemning tone with inflammatory expressions such as "water gun diplomacy." Nothing kind is stated.

This imbalance of information immediately gives the appearance of political propaganda and not encyclopedic information. Further reading confirms the article is a political "hit' piece.

Anyone in the position of Governor will have good and bad history, and if only one side is presented it is just propaganda. Prior to Governor Rhodes's administration, Ohio had a tremendous number of tragic fire deaths in nursing homes--105 from 1969-1972 as compared to 116 for the other 49 states put together. Governor Rhodes pushed hard for tough new legislation to require smoke detectors and sprinkler systems in all Ohio nursing homes, as well as working alarm systems and mandatory safety educational requirements for all nursing home operators. Governor Rhodes saved a lot of lives by pushing hard for this legislation in the face of opposition from powerful lobbyists. Unfortunately, saving old people's lives from fires in nursing homes is not mentioned anywhere in the article.

This article needs to be completely rewritten with equal balance on the positive accomplishments as the governor's negatives. The inflammatory language needs to go. --Backwardlook (talk) 22:57, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

user:Backwardlook It is rather a short article. If you add the above positive accomplishments, they seem worthy of addition to the header. Wikipedia is theoretically collaborative, articles don't improve themselves. Please add any thing useful, (and referenced). Roseohioresident (talk) 00:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

"...one of only seven governors to serve 4 four-year terms in office. (The other six being Edwin Edwards, George Wallace, Jim Hunt, Bill Janklow, Jerry Brown, and Terry Branstad."

Nelson Rockefeller was elected governor in New York four times to four-year terms (1958, 1962, 1966 & 1970). He resigned in 1973 (his third year of his fourth term) to work for the Commission on Critical Choices for Americans, (and eventually became Vice President of the United States in 1974). So while he did not serve all four terms to completion: Should Rockefeller be included to this list as having been elected to four terms (as well as being elected consecutively to four terms) - or is it that he had to serve his entire terms to completion as well as being elected? Wiseguy007 18:27, 14 December 2019 (UTC)