Talk:João Pessoa, Paraíba

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As the author of Brazil, João Pessoa and a resident of that city, I agree these two should be combined into one article. I will volunteer to do this if the other author(s) agree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slrman (talk • contribs) 23:14, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

> Very nice work! I like your rich descriptions. However, I think the text should stick to the facts and not worry too much about comparing Joao Pessoa with Rio or America (or Sao Paulo, Miami, Venice, Lisbon...). This is up to the reader and should not be the focus of the article. A new article could be created for that purpose. i.e., comparing cities, etc. If you decide to stick with the facts, I think these two articles could be combined. Also, I don’t know if you have noticed, at Wikipidia the author’s name is omitted so people can freely continue to edit the page. In the history section your editorial work is documented. I created a few categories based on your "Joao Pessoa, Brazil" article (transportation, health...). So, feel free to add your content to these area. BTW, cities in the wikipedia are not followed by country (i.e. "Rio, Brazil"). If you do a search on "Joao Pessoa," you won't find "Joao Pessoa, Brazil". So it is best to leave the name of the city only. Thanks for your contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.117.212 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio? James Smith[edit]

A few passages appear to be direct quotes; from where I can't say but they're attributed to "James Smith". Need to fix this quick. John Reid 04:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And by the way, who is this James Smith pal? Never heard of him. Ciacchi 19:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ehh, yeah... I was trying to fix some stuff up, but I really don't know if any of these James Smith facts are true... I think we should try and decide what we need to do to fix this up, and what info we need or can get rid of. I mean, for an encyclopedic article, do people really need to know "There is no co-pay for doctor visits" and other such facts? It seems more like a travel guide than an encyclopedia. Emmyceru 19:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Right, there is a great problem in this page. Whoever did it thinks this is a travel guide. We have WikiTravel for this! Ciacchi 16:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From a brazilian's perspective[edit]

I just wanted to say that you have gotten the idea of Joa Pessoa well; you must be Brazilian!I am, and I lke the fact that you rote an artical on the city; it gets overlooked so often, it gets annoying. I ask half of my friends were Joa Pessoa is, and they can't tell me what country it is even. One thought Brazil was in Africa. I think that much opertunity is in Brazil, and the more people who know about it, the better.


Thank you for writing this artical!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.243.248 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

== ... I hope you will pardon my impoliteness... But I have just been rereading and cleaning up this article and I saw how inaccurate it was. I removed the Restaurants section because it just described how restaurants usually are in every part of the world (I mean, in most restaurants all around the world you sit in the table and order the food from the comfort of your chair, it would be more noteworthy, for example, if all we had were only self-services...). Then I removed some POV sentences... "Public transportation is plentiful and unexpensive". Well, you try and wait for a bus to go home in João Pessoa, even if you are going to a "rich people's" district: it won't be difficult to find people saying "Oh, I think that the mayor should put more buses in the road, we must wait for hours here" or "Oh, no the 511 just passed and I missed it, now God knows when I'll see another one again!". And they are all but clean. Yes, we have one or other buses that offer air-conditioner, fancy and comfortable seats and an over average cleaning. But these, which are called "Optionals", cost more than most ordinary buses, which are usually filthy and smelly - as I said, even on buses that go to "rich people's" districts. I can only imagine what happens in the buses that go to the favelas. And everytime more you hear of a bus that has been invaded by robbers usually armed, and almost always it finishes with one or more deaths. Than they show you the bloodstains in the windows in the TV at lunchtime... And buses are not cheap. Actually, if I am not mistaken, one of these days the fair went up again, and it costs about what an Optional costed before. It is also not unusual to find people complaining about prices, though most of them get used with time. Finally, the taxis are also very filthy. Actually, when my mother gets a taxi, she always has to say "Will you please, please get me a clean and new one?". And then we see a decade old Fiat Uno with uncomfortable seats and a strange smell. All right, we don't have to say that in the article, because it is also POV, but please don't lie! Ciacchi 03:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to get to João Pessoa[edit]

Hi,

Maybe a section on how one can get to this place would be useful for a traveller who is planning on visiting this place. Details of flying in from major airports would be useful.

Warm regards,

-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.43.38 (talk) 13:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

For the first thing, my article was originally written as a travelogue for friends in the USA. That would explain why it reads like one. <grin>

For the rest, I totally disagree about the comments on the buses and taxis. I take them all the time and I have never seen a dirty taxi or bus. Nor have I ever heard of an armed robbery on a bus here in João Pessoa. In Rio yes, but even there, the buses are always clean. I really have to wonder if we are experiencing the same city. But then, I have only lived here 4 1/2 years so maybe I have no seen everything.

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ou por despeito por que era bonita e veio com esse pretexto hehe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.64.52.33 (talk) 18:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabedelo#/media/File:Areia_Vermelha_-_Cabedelo_-_Para%C3%ADba_-_Brasil.jpg

essa ta em artigo em lingua tuga mas o despeito é maior tipo o lixo selvagem que me bloqueou kk o ocoide — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.64.52.33 (talk) 18:21, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The criticism of term "brown" for pardo[edit]

  • pardo = not only "brown"..light pardos not are browns..the skin of light pardos is very clear..this term "brown" for pardo is very afrocentric..in parts of northeastern south america the majority of pardos are a admixture of amerindians womans and white males (in rio, recife and salvador for example, the majority of pardos are a admixture of white males and black females; in são luís, the majority of pardos are a admixture of amerindians and blacks; in joão pessoa, natal and fortaleza the majority of pardos are a admixture of mongoloids and europoids..the admixture of mongoloids and europoids is very most clear/light, but the admixture of blacks and amerindians or whites are most dark and have most negroid feactures in the face, dna-blood/et cetera..)..amerindian + white = "mameluco" in portuguese america (mestizo in spanish america?); black + amerindian = cafuzo (portuguese america) or zambo (spanish america); black + amerindian + white = mongrel/multirracial (in america) and "vira-lata" (in brazil). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.198.116.251 (talk) 19:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why article moved from João Pessoa to João Pessoa, Paraíba?[edit]

Why Ruddah moved this article from João Pessoa to João Pessoa, Paraíba in 27 July 2014‎? --Treisijs (talk) 07:55, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 July 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/c 13:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]


João Pessoa, Paraíba → João Pessoa – This article was under the title João Pessoa for eleven years (2003-2014) until it was renamed to João Pessoa, Paraíba in an undiscussed move. The city is undoubtedly the primary topic associated with this name. João Pessoa Albuquerque, the politician after which the city was named, is almost completely unknown in Brazil nowadays. See also the previous topic by Treisijs. —capmo (talk) 03:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:56, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Soft Oppose: If someone created an article for João Pessoa Albuquerque this distinction would help identify between the two. Although Albuquerque might not be as notable as the city, he may be notable enough in general to deserve an article. DaltonCastle (talk) 23:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose João pessoa redirecting here is enough, and the state suffix is useful and standard WP practice. There are also another places called João Pessoa. Vinukin (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are several places named New York; that is not reason enough for it to be a disambiguation page. As Sentinel emphasized below, COMMONNAME applies here too. —capmo (talk) 12:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment: According to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined." That's exactly what happens in the case of João Pessoa. Proof of this is the fact that the city had this title for 11 years, and João Pessoa Cavalcanti de Albuquerque already existed for 6 years, before someone decided to make the contested move. —capmo (talk) 00:28, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - obvious WP:COMMONNAME. No need for unnecessary disambiguation. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 13:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - there already is an article for the person - João Pessoa Cavalcanti de Albuquerque. All that is needed is a hatnote at João Pessoa to direct viewers to the article for the politician. Hack (talk) 06:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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