Talk:Joe Lillard/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 00:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll be reviewing this one! TBrandley 00:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

• Could a comma be added after "(June 15, 1905 – September 18, 1978)" in the lede, seems right
• I'm not quite sure the sports, such as baseball, basketball and American football, as it, in my opinion, constitutes overlinking
• Sorry if I'm being blind, but why does the page for "Chicago Cardinals" say "Arizona" instead? Same goes for "Los Angeles Rams" further below, which has a link pointing to "St. Louis Rams" instead
• "African American" missing a hypten
• "NFL until 1946" comma after "NFL"
• "almost half of the Cardinals' points" I think it might read better as "about" instead of "almost"
• "he played in two college football games in 1931" remove "in", as "in" is again below in that same sentence, and it sounds more right
• "was a key player" does that represent a neutral point of view. If it is said by the team or something, can that be noted? Same goes for "strong performance"
• "Tulsa, Oklahoma" two separate links, same goes for "Astoria, Queens"
• Upon its first mention, can "U.S." by referred to by "United States"
• "which called him "the whole show"" don't quote "the" please. Same goes for ""a superior athlete", don't quote words like "a"
• "pro football career" can "pro" be fully as "professional"
• Shouldn't "New York City" be linked per WP:MOS
• "Baseball-Reference" add ".com", as that is part of the official name of it

Overall; good job. Once the above issues are addressed, I will pass the article based on the good article criteria, though I will try to look through it again before doing so. TBrandley 01:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks much. My replies are as follows, in order:

• • I don't think having a comma after a name only (once the parenthetical part is taken out of the equation) is the correct approach. I looked at a few football bio FAs and they don't have a comma there.
  • Done.
  • The teams have both moved from their locations in the 1930s, and separate articles aren't created for their years before they relocated. This means that the links are for the same franchise, and should cover the teams' histories in Chicago and Los Angeles.
  • Done there and elsewhere.
  • I'm hesitant to do this because there are already a bunch of commas in the area, and I honestly feel it reads better without another one.
  • The concern I have with changing the wording is that he scored 19 of 52 points for the Cardinals. That's not close enough to make me want to say "about"; "almost" seems more accurate as it allows for him to be a few points short.
  • Rewrote this in a different way.
  • Rewrote this to avoid the potential NPOV issues, although I must say that I think they could be represented in the lead if backed by the body, which the originals were.
  • Okay. I'm not in love with doing it this way, but I've already complained enough for one review.
  • Yes, it can.
  • I don't see why I shouldn't include those words in the quote if the source includes them. In a way, I'd be taking wording from the source without using a quote, which sounds a lot like plagarism to me. One word probably doesn't matter that much, but I don't want to push things in this regard.
  • Made "pro" into "professional".
  • Okay.
  • Done for that site and Pro Football Reference. Giants2008 (Talk) 16:37, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
    • OK, no problem. With all the concerns addressed, I will pass the article now. Well done! TBrandley 23:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

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