Talk:John Billingsley

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Career Spoiler[edit]

Since this is a bio, and not about the shows he appears in, can someone remove the references that constitutes spoilers from the Career section? I'm not familar enough with the series to evaluate what's being tipped off, but his career should be readable without ruining the enjoyment of his work.Joe JJC 17:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tried -- but it was reverted, probably without even having been read in context. If a spoiler has anything to add to the description of a piece of art or an artist's career, I'd totally understand -- but when there's just NO POINT to dropping a reveal in the text, it's frustrating and senseless. It's become next to impossible to get edits in these days, because everything is invariably reverted: even when the resultant text is poorer for it. Status quo -- going forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.68.40.95 (talk) 16:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did indeed read your edit in context, and I responded on your talk page twice. As indicated by WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:SPOILER, Wikipedia is not censored, and does not omit or give warnings for spoilers. Nightscream (talk) 18:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is what the policy states "When including spoilers, editors should make sure that an encyclopedic purpose is being served. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information." By revealing the final twist of the episode -- NO additional contextual grounding is afforded to the reader. Thus, it serves no point whatsoever -- EXCEPT to irritate Wikipedia readers who seek out the article while watching the episode referenced (which is what happened to me). Further, the policy signals that the burden of proof is on the author seeking to include "spoiler" type language. Thus, from applying ordinary principles of statutory interpretation, the text as it presently stands violates stated policy. As editors, it is our collective responsibility to apply reasoned judgment when determining what text is most appropriate. The policy is intended to prevent ugly " ****Spoilers below**** " styles of editing which are inappropriate for encyclopedic writing. But likewise, one wouldn't have turned to an article on an artist listed in the 1986 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica -- say, Agatha Christie -- and find a recent work spoiled unnecessarily in the artists BIO section. The policy clearly intends to prevent overly-aggressive edits for plot summaries of works of fiction, but this is an article about an actor. Honestly, brother, you're misapplying the policy. I guarantee you that if I were to go over to, say, Daniel Radcliffe's entry, and drop analogously revealing language about his recent movies NOT ONLY would my edits be scrubbed, but I'd likely get into hot water for vandalism. This is a matter of common sense and discretion, and I strongly disagree with the way you're applying the policy. If you want that information in there, you bear the burden of justifying it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.68.40.95 (talk) 07:44, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that some description of the characters an actor plays, including major twists in those characters, goes to the reason for why an actor may be notable. Tell you what: I'll request WP:Third opinion on this. Would that be okay?
Also, please make sure you sign your talk page posts. You can do this by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of them, which also automatically time stamps them. It's easier for others to communicate with you when they know who authored which post. :-) Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 09:18, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Response to third opinion request:
Having looked at the contentious phrase as well as reviewing both the content guideline about spoilers and the policy about Wikipedia not being censored it is my opinion that the current wording "playing a friend of the Lone Gunmen who turns out to be a government spy." does appear to be within policy and guidelines because it explains why the character was important and helps explain why this early role was relevant enough to his career for inclusion within this article. I think that it should be included within the article for these reasons and because, by virtue of being a single sentence, it doesn't give an excessive amount of episode details away.--Mrmatiko (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pic[edit]

as long as nobody got a picture, the one from Phlox (star trek) could be used. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.201.100.166 (talk) 04:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

That was cryptic, wasn't it? – AndyFielding (talk) 07:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Angel[edit]

John Billingsly guest starred in an episode of Angel (the Buffy spin-off). I don't the the episode name so I didn't add it to the article, but you guys should -- he played a villain who wanted to eat a girl when she turned into a were-wolf. I'm not kidding -- check his credits in the IMDB if you don't believe me. To make the article complete we should make a reference to his appearences, especially in another SF-type show. 76.67.93.100 (talk) 00:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Gamma[reply]

Wikipedia does not consider imdb to be a reliable source. And please make sure when you start a new discussion, that you do so under a new section heading. Thanks. :-) Nightscream (talk) 20:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
IMDB "not creditable"? So who is, then—Rotten Tomatoes? Shirley, you jest. – AndyFielding (talk) 07:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, you actually said "not reliable". For some strange reason, though, WP's mobile editor doesn't let us edit Talk pages, only add to them. Oh well. – AndyFielding (talk) 07:48, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced material in need of sourcing[edit]

I am moving the following unsourced material here until it can be properly sourced per WP:NOR/WP:V:

Billingsley was born in Media, Pennsylvania and raised in Connecticut. He studied theatre at Bennington College in Vermont before moving to Seattle, where he helped to found Book-It, a theatre company specializing in stage adaptations, and Freehold, an acting studio. Billingsley currently resides in Los Angeles and remains active in theater. He is married to actress Bonita Friedericy, with whom he has worked on a number of projects.

Nightscream (talk) 20:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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someone plz add that he was a guest star on the good wife s7e13 it's listed in imdb but not here. ty 65.184.183.116 (talk) 15:28, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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