Talk:John C. Truesdale

A fact from John C. Truesdale appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 August 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that while serving in World War II, future National Labor Relations Board chairman John C. Truesdale helped sink the German submarine U-550 on his first day at sea?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/John C. Truesdale.

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Badly over-ref-tagged[edit]

Please clean up the swarm of redundant repeat ref-tags; for example, "Like his siblings,[5] he enrolled at Grinnell College and received his A.B. degree in social studies in 1942.[5][6]". What exactly does the first 5 mean? Consecutive repetitions of the same number are usually avoided unless there's some particular contention: just the latter one will do. About a third of the ref-tags could be removed. Tony (talk) 14:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because the Toner citation (currently #5) discusses his siblings attending Grinnell, but the White House press release of Sept. 26, 1977 (currently #6) does not. Press releases, no matter their source, are considered unreliable except to uncontrovertable facts. And while the Toner cite says he attended Grinnell and received a degree in social studies in 1943, the press release identifies this as an A.B. degree. Wikipedia's citation guidelines clearly state that clauses and phrases within sentences may need to be individually cited, especially when there may be confusion as to which citation is making which factual claim. This is not over-referenced. (When you've researched the article, you can claim it's over-referenced.) - Tim1965 (talk) 15:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You've placed [5] on a non-statement ("Like his siblings"). So what claim is ref 5 supporting? That Truesdale was like his siblings? You've got 5 again one second later at the end of the sentence. The first one needs to be removed. Tony (talk) 03:52, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Challengeable facts[edit]

I don't believe at all that the AFL-CIO was pushing Daniel Pollitt for the NLRB. They had an entirely different candidate in mind. This needs a citation. The article is incorrect that Pollitt had been special counsel to McCulloch, and my reading says he was totally acceptable to business groups. This, too, needs a citation. Neither Walther nor Fanning liked Truesdale much, and neither of them promoted him for the NLRB either. This "fact" needs a citation in the article. Employer groups didn't think Truesdale was liberal, but rather conservative -- which is why they liked him. This fact needs a citation in the article. And Jimmy Carter appointed Truesdale because he was trying to curry favor with business, not because he wished to avoid a political fight. This "fact" needs a citation as well.

This article clearly contains challengeable, factual claims which need citation, as noted above. - Tim1965 (talk) 12:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death[edit]

He moved to West Virginia in June of 2011 and died two weeks later. He did not move there in 2010.

 --MTQWV (talk) 04:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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