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Untitled[edit]

I've cleaned it up but this article is still rudimentary, incomplete and may have some small errors of fact here and there. Gwen Gale 16:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Posthumously reinstated?[edit]

The article has claimed for 2 1/2 years that Lee was posthumously reinstated as a member of the Church. Why has there never been a citation found to back up this claim? (The user who added this info is on wikiholiday, so I couldn't contact him directly.) Corvokarasu 16:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I found a citation and have included it. Corvokarasu 16:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seemingly contradictory dates[edit]

The article states that Lee was excommunicated in 1870, yet the Lee's Ferry article (and a Salt Lake Tribune article I just read) states that the church asked him to establish the ferry in 1871. That doesn't make sense. I'm going to place a citation request on his excomm date. Does anyone have better information on this? --TrustTruth (talk) 17:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citing "Confessions of John D. Lee"[edit]

Is citing the Confessions of John D. Lee really a good idea? It seems to me that it's fairly common knowledge that Lee's lawyer edited it to make it more salacious to sell more books since that's how he was paid. Or am I wrong?Gillespee (talk) 19:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Number of children[edit]

Since this edit by User:ARTEST4ECHO, the infobox (externalized as Template:Latter Day Saint biography/John D. Lee also in this edit) states that Lee had 56 children, while the text tells he "had nineteen wives (at least eleven of whom eventually left him) along with sixty-seven children". I guess this is a copy and paste error when creating that external infobox. If it's not, please explain in the text, where the difference comes from. --YMS (talk) 16:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't a copy and paste error. There were no "Children" listed when the template was created. However, I entered the number from the last section (John_D._Lee#Descendants). It reads "Lee had 19 wives and 56 children, and his descendants are now numerous." At the time there was no "Citation needed" tag.

However, you are correct, there is conflicting information. One part of the page says 67 the other says 56. Obviously they cannot both be right.--ARTEST4ECHO (^talk/_contribs) 16:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See the following link for descendants, he had a total of 62 children, 19 wives and up until 1996 a total of 11,136 descendants. My generation and my children's generation are not added into that number. I am of the great-great-great generation http://www.wadhome.org/lee/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.148.228.134 (talk • contribs) 10:21, 21 January 2015‎

Sorry, but self-published sources are not normally useful on a Wikipedia article. What we need is reliable sources instead. ^—^Asterisk*^Splat^→ 21:03, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sacrifice?[edit]

What was Lee referring to when he supposedly said that he had "been sacrificed in a cowardly, dastardly manner"? Since he had led a party which carried out a mass murder, in what sense was he sacrificed? Was he actually denying taking part in it?101.98.74.13 (talk) 06:48, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps he meant he was a sacrificial escape goat (Scapegoat). By killing him, the rest of the people would be spared. 207.61.145.4 (talk) 19:23, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do we know that he said it outside of Mormonism Unveiled? --2605:A601:A962:CB00:B121:23C0:F7C:F651 (talk) 16:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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End reason Death?[edit]

Was he removed from the councal of the 50 because of death or becauses he was excommunicated? Did he serve on the council after he was excommunicated? LuxembourgLover (talk) 16:08, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]