Talk:John Jay Report

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School policy of moving accused teachers[edit]

Please get a source for the claim that state schools had a similar policy to the Church of moving accused teachers. This is a very interesting assertion, but difficult to justify even leaving it in the article without a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.67.84 (talk) 01:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I was wondering about the Adobe Acrobat logo at the end of the 1st ¶. Was it just a result of the ".pdf" file extension or was there some other technique that I'd like to learn? I've been searching about in the various Wiki Help pages with a notable lack of success. Dick Kimball (talk) 15:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's the PDF extension. See Help:External link icons. Ntsimp (talk) 17:55, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some considerations[edit]

Does the report make any mention of the ratio of how Catholic sex abuse in the US factors into the overall CSA abuse rate among the general US populace? If so, add it to the article (and probably also to Catholic sex abuse cases in the United States), as otherwise, the scope of the entire issue may be entirely misrepresented. I've heard the figure to be rumored at or below 1% of all reported cases of CSA in the US. The only remotely similar consideration I've come upon on Wikipedia before was ranking offending priests by country or nationality, coming to the conclusion that the US is by far the place where a minor is most likely to get fiddled with by a robed agent of Catholicism. Hm. It's a bit odd that Wikipedia, out of all the kinds of relative figures that would put the issue in proper perspective, appears to be interested only in this one. Any statistical analyst or social researcher can tell you about the significance of relative figures compared to absolute figures, and how only using absolute figures will often only tell you very little and give you a highly slanted view.

The other figure I've heard is that there was only one single case more serious than touching over anybody's clothes (of which a number of cases, as also some Wikipedia articles allege, occurred openly in public) that involved any minors below either 14 or 16 years of age, and that was the case of Paul Shanley. In that context, it is interesting to note that the article states that close to 90% of cases involved such lighter alleged behavior (non-contact offenses, hugging, or touching over anybody's clothes, where a number of cases seemingly occurred in public), which is because the figures in the according table add up to far above 100%, as many cases are obviously counted more than once depending upon what behaviors were alleged. In other words, the according table and parts of the article are highly intransparent and confusing, if not misleading, or even obscure. If the report makes any note of a relation between victim age structure and severity of alleged behavior, add it to the article (and probably also to Catholic sex abuse cases in the United States), as otherwise, the nature of the entire issue may be entirely misrepresented. --80.187.106.216 (talk) 21:21, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual orientation[edit]

I found nohting about the fact, that most victims was boys, but the offentder mostly not bi- or homosexual. So it is stated in the report. The occasion is very importent and man have more occasion to do things with boys. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 09:55, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Content was identified as copied from the 2004 source The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Priests and Deacons, by Karen Terry et al., prepared by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (Washington DC: USCCB, 2004) and from Independent survey of sexually abusive Roman Catholic priests. Earlier text must not be restored. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]