Talk:John Milfull

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In response to DrStrauss's analysis of this article, John Milfull, as lacking notability, I have consulted the recommended page at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)

In response to the suggestions there, I have:

(1) added evidence of Prof. Milfull's "significant impact in their scholarly discipline ...as demonstrated by independent reliable sources"

e.g. comment from Prof. J. M. Ritchie, University of Sheffield, that Milfull was one of: "the powerful generation of scholars raised in the Sydney school (...) who have already made the wider world of Germanistik aware of the new scholarship coming from Australia with major publications in book form on problems of modern German literature"

(2) added evidence that the "person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association"

e.g. "In 1997 he was elected Vice-President of the Contemporary European Studies Association of Australia."

(3) added evidence that "the person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon)."

e.g. "in 1984 Milfull established a degree program in European Studies at the UNSW and in 1996 he founded the UNSW's Centre for European Studies, of which he remained the director until his retirement in 2006" [Note: named chairs are not common in Australia]

(4) added evidence that the "person is or has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area"

e.g. "From 1996 he was a member of the International Advisory Board for the journal Debatte: Journal of Contemporary Central and Eastern Europe." [i.e. while not the head or editor, he was part of the prestigious International Advisory Board for that major journal]

(5) added evidence that he gave "invited lectures at meetings of national or international scholarly societies, where giving such an invited lecture is considered considerably more prestigious than giving an invited lecture at typical national and international conferences in that discipline"

e.g. invited lecture entitled "Visibility and Invisibility: Assimilation, Success, and the German-Jewish Paradox" at the Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies, United States.

http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-german&month=0008&week=d&msg=GT7UOvDv7F3ku2jo1peTgw&user=&pw=

Perseus25 (talk) 08:20, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Golden Rule[edit]

Another suggestion was that this article should follow the Golden Rule, that is, "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything

Prof. John Milfull has had articles discussing him in:

(1) major Australian newspapers, The Sydney Morning Herald; The Australian; The Age. These are all respected newspapers and independent of the subject of the article.

(2) repeated listings in a non-vanity reference work, the Who's Who in Australia. He has appeared in numerous editions (I cite the 2007 and the 2015 editions). The publisher is AAP Directories (a unit of Australian Associated Press) (see: http://connectweb.com.au/whos-who.aspx )

(3) repeated references to him in subject-based journals in Australia, e.g. A.U.M.L.A.: Journal of the Australasian Universities Modern Language Association.

Perseus25 (talk) 08:36, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Subject of this article not a living person[edit]

Hi Worldbruce, Thank you for the comments and guidelines that you added today to the the following page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:John_Milfull

Just one comment in reply from me is that the article's subject, John Milfull, is no longer living (he passed away in 2016). See: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/obituaries/john-milfull-transformed-approach-to-language-study-20161122-gsumm6.html

Therefore, in my humble opinion, although great care must be exercised in statements made and sources relied upon, Wikipedia's biographies of living persons (BLP) policy may not apply to this article. Best wishes from Perseus25 (talk) 06:15, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yashovardhan, Thank you for the comment that you placed on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Milfull as follows: "I was going to accept this article but didn't. You see BLP isn't only applicable to living people but also applies to recently deceased. I'm not sure whether 2016 is recent or not. This brings us in a grey area where I suggest you should follow the blp policy. Add inline to all claims which can possible be challenged and you're good to go."

Following your advice, I am now following Wikipedia's BLP recommendations, including by adding further claims of notability along with inline supporting citations. For example, Prof. Emeritus Philip Thomson (of Monash University)'s comment: "of the eleven departments of German that then existed in Australian universities, only New South Wales, where John Milfull headed an energetic group, was engaged in the sort of German studies that Monash was committed to, broad-ranging, interdisciplinary and contemporary." Best wishes from Perseus25 (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Subject's self published CV leading to a very large Copyright violation[edit]

When doing a copyright violation check, I discovered [1]. I think, based on the username and the way the page is structured it is the subject's own webpage, and therefore I am inclined to wave it through on CV grounds, but would not be opposed to a rewrite on it by Perseus25 or annother editor to reduce the percieved CV nature

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@Hasteur: Thank you for approving the article and reporting the copyright violation. I have now performed a cleanup of the article by removing the listing of multiple articles which were causing Earwig's Copyvio Detector to report probable copyright violation. I have also added two external links to Milfull's CV webpages where the majority of those articles are listed. The CV tool no longer reports copyright problems. I have therefore now removed the cleanup template from the top of the article. Best wishes from Perseus25 (talk) 11:37, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]