Talk:John Olver

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January 24, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

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Atheist[edit]

He is listed in the atheist category. can some provide a citation for that. 154.20.161.143 16:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- I've looked around and can't find any reference. His official biography reads "unspecified" so I've changed it to that and removed atheism categories.Glendoremus 01:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only Non-Catholic other than Frank?[edit]

What about Congressman Tierney, or is he a nominal Catholic?--Anglius 02:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rep. Tierney's religion has always been listed as unspecified or unaffiliated. I've edited out the innaccurate sentence.--Wgbc2032 23:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

False Churchill Quote[edit]

On review of this news story, I remove the section on the False Churchill Quote that originally was posted by SPU Martiaclarks (talk · contribs · logs). The posting POV implied that the fictional mobster Michael Corleone originate "...you keep your friends close but your enemies closer" rather than Sun Tzu. The implication that the words were never spoken by Winston S. Churchill seems unlikely. Also, a search of the recorder for John Olver did not bring up the listed source, "Chris Collins, Following The Script, The Greenfield Recorder, July 11, 2008." -- Suntag ☼ 15:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2012 campaign[edit]

Information about a candidate allegedly running against Olver in the future does not belong in this article. It belongs, where I put it, in United States House of Representatives elections in Massachusetts, 2012.

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Olver/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Homunculus (talk · contribs) 02:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do this review. Stand by. Homunculus (duihua) 02:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, this is shaping up to be a busy week. Hope you don't mind a delay of a couple more days.Homunculus (duihua) 05:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:
I've noticed a few small problems:
Second paragraph in lede: "The district is a primarily rural district that makes up most of Western Massachusetts, and he is the first Democrat to ever represent the district." That's three districts in one sentence. Maybe something like "The 1st congressional district is the largest in Massachusetts, comprising much of the western and central parts of the state. Olver is the first Democrat to represent the predominantly rural district." Just an idea. Do whatever suits you.

"Olver grew up on his father's farm, where they tended cows." I assume "they" refers to Olver and his father?

There are way too many consecutive sentences that begin with "Olver." Eg.: "Olver grew up," "Olver graduated," "Olver went on," "Olver taught chemistry," and so forth. This problem persists throughout the body of the article.

Massachusetts Senate and Massachusetts House of Representatives are both linked multiple times

"...arrested April 28, 2006 after protesting outside the Sudanese Embassy protesting the genocide."

"Olver has been critical of the United States lack of involvement with the genocide in Darfur." — suggest something like "Olver has been critical of the U.S. government's inaction..."

"Olver was one of thirty-one who voted in the House" — how about "Olver was one of thirty-one House Representatives who voted..."

Fixed all the above.
B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Looks alright, but consider trying to minimize the appearance of one-sentence paragraphs. Also, I'm not sure that the bus station dedication or other honors belong under the heading "personal life."
I believe it belongs in his personal life because it was done near the end of his tenure, kind of like a "thank-you" for his service. Plus he had no involvement with it as a Representative.

Still not sure I agree, but it's good enough for me.Homunculus (duihua) 19:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:
One of the most frequently cited sources is not available online, but I'll assume good faith. Other than that, there's quite a lot of inconsistency in the formatting of dates. I'm seeing some access dates in the format of "December 9, 1994", and others as "2012-10-15." Also some inconsistency in the placement of dates within references (eg. compare footnotes 4 and 5).
Fixed.
B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
Reference density looks okay.

C. No original research:
Not that I can see.
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:
The article seems to cover all the major aspects of Olver's life and his politics. However, I think it would be worth doing a quick check to see if a little more might be written about his time in office, his influence, and any other significant policy positions or initiatives he was involved in.
Did a search and it all seems pretty covered, added a quote from fellow Rep. on Olver's "style" of governing.

B. Focused:
Very much so.
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
I see no significant problems here.
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
No edit wars.
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
Yes, and good range of images.

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

I'll allow some time to review these suggestions. Please let me know when you're ready to have me take another look. Homunculus (duihua) 03:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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