Talk:John Tesh

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Despite over five million albums sold and numerous sold-out concert appearances, Tesh has been the subject of heavy criticism among various listeners.[1] As with other artists who fall into the jurisdiction of "adult contemporary instrumental" or "smooth" music (such as Kenny G and Yanni) Tesh has been the brunt of considerable outlash from many who consider his music to be "trite" and "cheesy", even if generally "innocuous".[2][3][4]

This section needs discussion before adding back in. Firstly, reference #2 is a blog, invalid reference; #3 is not a professional review; and regarding reference #4 - the phrase used in that reference is "LUSH, TRITE MELODY", I did not find the word "CHEESY" used, and "which makes the addition of this paragraph completely one-sided POV. It would be a good section to have, but all views regarding his music, bad AND good, must be included, and not written by twisting the words around from the references used to form a different meaning. Cricket02 13:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tesh is a joke. Too bad for Wiki's "fear of libel" policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.209.100 (talk) 02:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's a caveman! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.156.104 (talk) 01:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That explains everything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.77.26 (talk) 17:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is John Tesh an Alien?[edit]

I think stating that John Tesh is an alien who is going to call his mothership is unproven. Perhaps it should be taken out of the article.

-J --Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.197.166.21 (talk) 15:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There was a serious group of people in the 1990's who regularly picketed Tesh concerts. They called themselves NATAS, "Satan" backwards, or the National Anti-Tesh Action Society. There's a video on YouTube from a newscast:[5]
Barrett Ross (talk) 23:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking for more info on this phenomenon as well; I remember the stories circulating about the folks who thought Tesh was an alien. swain (talk) 05:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

removing "alien rumor" section[edit]

Rumors per se have no place in Wikipedia biographies of living persons, particularly a rumor that the vast majority of sane human beings would consider impossible to be true. Unlike some notorious rumors that lead to lawsuits widely covered in the media (like a rumor about the true sexual orientation of a major Hollywood leading man), the rumor that John Tesh is an alien is not even newsworthy. To include it here, and even to elevate its importance by assigning it its own section, is absurd.

The fact that it was reported in a very brief, casual and mostly humorous interview with Tesh in The New York Times does not make it newsworthy. That interview (which is given as the only source for this rumor) treats the rumor as a joke, and jokes about living persons certainly do not belong in articles in Wikipedia or any other serious encyclopedia. I am going to remove the rumor and the section it occupies in this article.--Jim10701 (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jim,

Indeed, the intent of posting something on the talk page of the article is to discuss the change. Perhaps after a discussion, there is a decision. I don't appreciate it when someone removes something from a page abruptly without discussion. This is a relevant topic for the article. There's being bold and being inconsiderate, Jim. Surely, your reasons are sound and I see where you are coming from, but how about giving others a chance to voice whether or not they agree with the proposal instead of assuming you are automatically right? Jimsteele9999 (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This information is not important to the subject and should be removed per Wikipedia:Handling trivia. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 03:04, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am aware of the links in regards to trivia as it pertains to articles. Note, the criteria for inclusion is a bit more complex than your original edit summary referenced, and as such I think we need a consensus here before we make any changes. Feel free to review past history as it pertains to this rumor. Jimsteele9999 (talk) 23:32, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This rumor isn't important because it fails Wikipedia:Notability. It has not received significant coverage in reliable sources. Also, a consensus appears to have been reached as four editors have removed this section and only one has reverted these edits. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 03:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 April 2013[edit]

Moved from Module talk:InfoboxImage -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

{{edit protected}} I work for John Tesh at the Tesh Media Group. Someone has changed his photo without his consent and I would like to have the photo changed back to an approved image. I could upload an image or you could use this one https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReDJWEHKkR68pItE7Jcvi6Reh0h2mGjBSZy0IgSqR9U9iOUa_0. If you have a concern about copyright, I'd be glad to upload an image that is the same as the one I have linked to here.

Please let me know what needs to be done to get the image changed. Truthinwikiland (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC) Mark Edwards, Senior Vice President, Content Development TeshMedia Group [details removed][reply]

Truthinwikiland (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is one of the exceptions to Wikipedia's rules on conflict of interest. As mentioned here, quality images of John Test, released under a free license, would be most welcome. The place to start would be the Wikimedia Commons Welcome page.
But I must point out that this is Wikipedia's article, not yours, and its content is subject to Wikipedia's rules whether or not you approve of it. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mr. Edwards. Welcome. Please feel free to email me through my talk page (click on "email me") and I would be happy to help with getting the appropriate permissions from you for John's image, and any other corrections/updates you would like to make which is a perfectly reasonable request per WP:Biographies of living persons. You can also request help on the WP:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Thank you. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 01:55, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, you can also visit this page WP:Contact us - Subjects. Hope this helps. Cheers. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 12:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Contributed images[edit]

We received the following images for this article based on a request for copyright permission. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 16:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

March 2014[edit]

Tesh is most well known and influential as one of the "talking head" hosts of tabloid-lite show "Entertainment Tonight" with occasional cameos elsewhere. The article seems to have been influenced by fans or PR operatives of his music and business endeavors who want to portray him as a culturally significant musician. The article should be edited for neutrality and the music stuff toned down as it is not as significant as his celebrity-world work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.74.24.30 (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • ..."most well known" for Entertainment Tonight? One question, have you seen this artist's immense discography? He is a culturally significant musician. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 01:50, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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