Talk:Johns Hopkins–Navy football rivalry

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Review: December 4, 2014. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 23:01, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this over the next couple days, since this is currently the oldest nom awaiting a review. Wizardman 23:01, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the issues I found:

"who claimed eight national championships in ten years. Only Yale presented any form of challenge, claiming four national championships in the same time period" so there were 12 titles in 10 years? If so that's fine, just making sure I'm not misreading.

Yes, you're reading that right. I think there were actually more like 15.

"Hopkins first team was assembled in 1881," Hopkins'

Corrected.

"Navy returned the favor in the second half of the game, when" rm comma

Comma removed.

"The next year, in 1885, Naval Academy officials finally approved of the playing of football" How were Navy able to play up until then? Or was it just a situation where they allowed it but just looked the other way?

It was pretty much they just looked the other way, with the policy that, if anything happened, the students, not the Academy, would be held responsible.

Only a little bit that I found to be an issue. I'll put the article on hold and will pass when the above is fixed. Wizardman 00:09, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have attempted to correct or clarify all of your concerns. Thanks for the review. - A Texas Historian (Talk to me) 15:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good now, so I'll pass the article as a GA. Wizardman 04:11, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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verifiability[edit]

@A Texas Historian and Jweiss11: Jweiss11 recently removed maintenance tags from this article without explanation, which has the obvious and unfortunate effect of dissuading editors from improving it.[1], [2]

GA stipulated and MOS:CITELEAD aside, the topic is likely notable, though this is less clear around the new sibling article at Johns Hopkins–Navy lacrosse rivalry. Regardless, this article does not currently seem to be well-sourced around the purported "rivalry" topic (which itself is insufficient per WP:NRIVALRY), though individual events are sourced. Can anyone add some direct "rivalry" citations or pull quotes from existing citations such as Bealle and Patterson? UW Dawgs (talk) 04:55, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UW Dawgs, I removed the tags because neither seemed to be appropriate. The artifice is generally well-sourced and the statement of an article's subject at the beginning of its lead generally doesn't require a citation. Are you questioning whether the subject of the article qualifies as a notable rivalry? If so, perhaps an AfD nomination is in order? Or maybe you want to call attention to this article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football? Jweiss11 (talk) 15:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are 6 unsourced rivalry claims in the article body, which cascade into 7 unsourced claims in the lead plus infobox/article title. Do you observe any existing any citations for these rivalry claims? If so, would you please quote them? UW Dawgs (talk) 01:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]