Talk:Jonathan Goudeau

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Repeated edits by user KidAd[edit]

User KidAd repeatedly reverts edits without justification, other than vaguely citing policies. Does anyone object to providing the details he repeatedly reverts?Secarctangent (talk) 01:30, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits violate WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE. The material is also poorly written. Per WP:ONUS, The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. That means you. KidAdSPEAK 01:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You don't explain why. A drive-by assertion of violation is insufficient to explain any of this. I'm really happy to improve this, but you haven't explained how or why these violate these policies. Secarctangent (talk) 01:34, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter if objections are "drive-by" or not. You must gain consensus if other editors take issue with your edits. That is how things work. KidAdSPEAK 01:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And what actually is your objection? I could go and do the same to a random edit you've just made, and you'd know just as much as I do about how to address your concerns. Secarctangent (talk) 01:36, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Goudeau voted for and supports an extreme draft Louisiana state bill is gibberish. So we can start with the obvious proofreading issue. KidAdSPEAK 01:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was trying to avoid a comma splice, but I reworded it. I also am happy to take out extreme, even though both the bill's supporters and opponents agree that it is a major shift in Louisiana state law if passed, and the bill's supporters explicitly cite as a feature of the bill that it is likely unconstitutional today, and let the bill speak for itself. Accordingly, I removed the tag you had put in querying that adjective as it's no longer present. Secarctangent (talk) 01:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Using the word "extreme" in WP:WIKIVOICE violates WP:NPOV unless it is stated explicitly in a reliable source. KidAdSPEAK 01:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to where that is in either policy? A Ctrl+F for "extreme" isn't turning it up. Or is this in your opinion covered by a more general aspect of these policies within? Secarctangent (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just read WP:WIKIVOICE. The rule of thumb is that Wikipedia says what reliable sources say. If a reliable source calls something “extreme” or “disproven” or “false,” then Wikipedia must do the same. But editors CANNOT syntesize reliable sources and come to their own conclusions. That is a violation of WP:NPOV KidAdSPEAK 02:05, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]