Talk:Jurassic Park (film score)

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On 28 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Jurassic Park: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Name Edits[edit]

I dunno if you were just being dumb, but his name is 'John Williams.' If you put 'John William's' then it won't work. Please be sure to put the Right name and not change it when its right.

--70.119.237.64 05:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Variations of Recording Techniques, It should read that the music is very "bright and live." What is meant by this is that the music sounds like you're hearing the concert live in a concert hall, as opposed to overly digitized such as a Hans Zimmer score, or somewhat dull sounding like how they mastered The Lost World.

There is a difference and that is what is meant. --70.119.50.167 21:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Soundtrack VS Score[edit]

I cite one of your own articles in this debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_score

A Film score is music specifically written for a film. I don't understand why Wiki thinks that this article should be considered about a "soundtrack." If anything, you could say "album," but NOT soundtrack as soundtrack is music NOT written specifically for the film or various other types of things such as the actual track of sound effects in a medium.

I don't think this article is a soundtrack. If anything, I think it should be renamed "Film Score."

--70.119.50.167 19:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crap[edit]

This article is horrendous and glurgy. There are spelling mistakes galore, and it's all kinds of POV. Most of it makes no sense at all. If you need to explain what something means on the talk page, then your writing is bad. This is my favorite of John Williams' scores, and this article is in sad disarray. 69.248.65.105 00:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I'll admit it's somewhat point of view, but it's not in any disarray. As far as explaining things in talk it's because people keep editing things out without realizing what they're doing. But anyways, I try not to complain about things. I try to fix them. If you can fix something, then fix it. If you can't,then stop complaining. I Corrected all 4 spelling errors and removed some of the more verbose things. Happy now?--Voyager1 00:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Cue Names/Slate Numbers[edit]

I know currently it says citation is needed. No site currently hosts the leaked conductors score to Jurassic Park but it is currently available in PDF through torrent sites and such. JPL will soon be making a few pages dedicated to this and as such will be the citation needed for this. I ask that no one change/remove this yet. There will soon be the citation needed but currently there is none as it is not something that is widely known. --72.188.34.9 (talk) 05:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have the PDFs, and there are numerous differences between them and the information provided here. For instance, "Cartoon Demonstration" instead of "Cartoon Display" and "The Coming Storm" instead of "The Storm is Coming." There are also cue number discrepancies. It's possible that some of these were changed, but the simple fact of the matter is that the only piece of hard evidence I've seen is what's sitting on my computer - I have no way of knowing if the cues listed on the page were simply invented by another Wikipedian. I'm not gonna change it right now, but I'm tempted to. Datameister (talk) 01:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bootleg/Fan Edit Track Listing[edit]

In addition to a number of other changes, I've removed the track listing for the bootleg or fan edit and replaced it with the original cue titles. I have nothing against fan edits - I make them for myself all the time - but unofficial track listings have no place on Wikipedia, as they're just our own personal creations. The original cue titles, however, were an actual part of the process of creating this score, and they can provide valuable information to readers. Datameister (talk) 02:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Opening Titles[edit]

What's the name of the wind instrument used in the track, "Opening Titles"? It seems to be a somewhat obscure instrument as I haven't heard it in any Western classical orchestras and would be a helpful piece of information to include on the page. --Þorstejnn (talk) 06:12, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

article deletion request[edit]

I respectfully request that this article be removed from Wikipedia. It appears to have been written by someone who thinks John Williams is a great film composer (he isn't), and if one were going to write articles about John Williams' scores, there are other, better choices. Indeed, there are better scores by better composers (Herrmann, Goldsmith, Waxman) that would justify Wikipedia articles, well-ahead of anything by John Williams. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 18:18, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you think of the music personally, John Williams is an extraordinarily prolific film composer, and if he were as bad as you are claiming, he wouldn't be. Not only that, but since this is a case where the music has outlived the film (the Academy Awards has routinely used the theme from Jurassic park at the awards in contexts having nothing to do with this movie) this music is clearly notable and worth an article on Wikipedia. Wikipedia isn't here to judge what or who is "better", only to supply information about what is "notable". Whether or not the theme from Jurassic park is "better" than other film scores is up for debate, but it is clearly notable. 204.244.64.66 (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move to "soundtrack"[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum ^{Go Bruins!} 04:49, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jurassic Park (film score) → Jurassic Park (soundtrack) – This was moved a few times in 2006, ending up at Jurassic Park (film score); see the comment above, #Soundtrack VS Score. Nevertheless, "soundtrack" is the dominant usage for film score albums, see Category:Film soundtracks. In some cases where a soundtrack album was released containing somewhat related music, there is a separate article titled "(score)" (see Category:Film scores, e.g. 12 Years a Slave), but that is not needed in straightforward cases like this. Note that if this page is moved, I propose to move the pages for the sequels' film score albums, and then nominate their category for renaming as "soundtracks". --Relisted. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 11:58, 1 May 2014 (UTC) – Fayenatic London 10:58, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Questions: Nominator's rationale is confused. Scores are scores; soundtracks [in the sense we care about here] are albums [in the conceptual sense – these days they might be digital-only and not on physical media] that consist of a) [all or a portion of] the score, b) popular-music numbers featured in the actual soundtrack [in the sense of audio track of the film/show/game], c) even related "music inspired by" it, or d) sometimes some combination of the above. I.e., the notion that it's a soundtrack unless there's also an album "containing somewhat related music" isn't correct; the term score has nothing to do with the existence of such a pseudo-soundtrack album. Only a tiny percentage of "soundtrack" albums contain, much less only contain, related/inspired-by music rather than music form the actual film (or TV show, or whatever), and are usually clearly labeled. The two questions to ask here are:
1. Is there a soundtrack album, with popular music (rock songs, etc.) on it and a separate film score album?
2. Is this article (and should it be) about the film score (the composition), or about the album release of that score [in whole or part], or about both?
— SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 15:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The answers are: (1) no, only the film score album; (2) both. Note that the infobox and multiple other categories identify the subject as soundtrack. – Fayenatic London 16:29, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: If there's no push to make this article really focus on the soundtrack album (its sales and reception, etc.), it seems like this page is always going to be primarily about the score as a musical work. They could even theoretically be separate articles (though I think splitting them now would result in a re-merge, just as stubs on singles get merged into album articles). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 23:11, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per SMcCandlish. It even has different sections for different soundtrack editions. ^walk victor falk^talk 00:16, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 28 August 2023[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 18:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jurassic Park (film score) → Jurassic Park: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack – The film score is called Jurassic Park: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack and it existed under the incorrect title for most of its history and the name change was reverted previously for no reason. @Locke Cole: Eurohunter (talk) 17:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support move. This is the closest we have to natural disambiguation. O.N.R. ^(talk) 19:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not really. This article covers more than one album, and the proposed title is just one album's name. If the RM is successful, then you're basically going to end up with a fork/split because then the article will just be about the first soundtrack album and not the multiple releases that followed and expanded on the film score. —Locke Cole • t • c 16:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Eurohunter: the name change was reverted previously for no reason. I provided a reason, you simply did not like it. That being said, I Oppose this move, as most other film scores are at "<Movie title> (film score)", and we appear to be bending over backwards to name this for one release of said film score, when "Jurassic Park: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" is but one release of many in the years since the film was produced/distributed. —Locke Cole • t • c 22:14, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Articles for soundtrack albums have typically gone by WP:CONCISE. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 20:47, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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