Talk:KXGN-TV/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 20:58, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the long wait! I have (finally) left some comments below. I loved reading about this smol fighter of a station! Thanks for writing it, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 00:20, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

• • @LunaEatsTuna: Resolved all of the issues. Your spot check problem was because of a missing clipping link to the second clipped page of a newspaper article. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Nice work on the changes! I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status. As always, congrats! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 06:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Copyvio check

Earwig says good to go. Quotations used in-line with WP:COPYQUOTE—attributed and usually very short extracts.

Files

All images are relevant, of high quality, and copyright-free:

• File:KXGN TV 5 Logo.png: good, valid non-free use rationale;
• File:Kxgn glendive studio.jpg: good, CC BY-SA 4.0, uploaded to Commons by registered user.

Prose

• "who had moved from Havre to Glendive in 1945" – wikilink Glendive as first mention in the body. Also;
• Wikilink the first mentions of CBS, ABC and NBC in the body.
• "he started KXGN radio" – I would wikilink to KXGN (AM).
• Probably my stupidity, but was the Rose Theater located in Havre or Glendive?
  • picture house in Glendive
• "In a 1959 United States Senate hearing in Helena centering on" – recommend changing to "In a 1959 United States Senate hearing in Helena that centered on" because the whole sentence is rather lengthy; not sure how to explain this, but IMO it just flows much better.
• "in the Mountain West out of business" – wikilink Mountain West.
• The sentence starting "The FCC had a rule" is quite long at 83 words, especially with several appositives. Could it be shortened or split into multiple sentences instead?
• "Marks added KDZN in 1995" – wikilink KDZN.
• "approved of the purchase of the FM because" – will readers unfamiliar with the topic be able to understand that KDZN is an FM radio?
• The sentence at the start of Digital television transition is a bit jagged IMO.
• "its costly upgrade to digital television" – could digital television be wikilinked to anywhere?
• "KXGN added a dedicated NBC subchannel" – subchannel?
  • Digital subchannel, a terrible, terrible article.
    • That is indeed very sad.
• "an idea Sturlaugson had floated prior" – is "floated" correct here? I have never heard of the expression before. Please ignore this concern if it is an American English standard that I am unaware of.
  • yeah, that's an idiom. I changed it.
• "one hour ahead of their usual Mountain Time Zone airings" – wikilink Mountain Time Zone and unlink its mention in the NBC section.
• "of the Montana Television Network, airing" – change to "of the Montana Television Network (MTN), airing" as the acronym is mentioned later in the sentence.
• "was often a one-man operation" – recommend "was often a one-person operation" or similar for gender neutrality.
• I just noticed that Stephen Marks is mentioned in the history section (and strangely not wikilinked) but his Marks Radio Group is never mentioned by name.
• The second paragraph in Moore ownership and the first paragraph in Sale to Marks are both fairly long. For instance, I reckon the latter paragraph could be split at "The sale took longer than Moore had expected." to improve readability.

Refs

Passes spotchecking. I decided to spotcheck all sources used multiple times and some at random. No concerns with refs 2, 3, 5, 7, 15, 21 and 26. But:

• I could not seem to verify a statement for ref 8, which is that CBS programming was "from 6 to 9 p.m.,".
  • That's because there's a missing linked clipping on the second page: [1] You will find the fact there.
    • I see!

Also:

• Minor inconsistency—some of the news sources have wikilinked names whilst others do not. Either way is fine, but I would prefer this be consistent.
  • Changed to wikilink all sources with articles on their first use and not again.
• Can anymore info be added to the citation template for ref 3?
  • This is an oddball. The link is generated by template, {{FCC letter}}. The links might soon be pulled if the FCC decides to pull down an old database (they migrated all these PDFs to their new LMS database last year though the old links still exist separately). In more recent history card cites, I've been using what I changed this to: {{cite web}} (with the added benefit of allowing IABot to run). At some point, the documentation of Template:FCC letter/doc, which contains a guide to reading history cards, probably needs to be linked from these types of citations and moved out of template documentation to some sort of project space page. I have no issue, and history cards are foundational records when one tries to figure out the history of any US broadcasting station that was around in 1980, but these are VERY tough references for non-topic editors to parse.
    • Thanks for the explanation.
• For ref 27, is there a better name available for said website?
  • Fixed.

Other

Short description, external links, infobox, navs, cats and other templates all good.

• Recommend adding template:Use X English.

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