Talk:Karma in Hinduism/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: –SpacemanSpiff 08:48, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:
In many parts, the article reads like a sermon, e.g. "The Vedas tell us that if we sow goodness, we will reap goodness; if we sow evil, we will reap evil." A rewrite is required to change the tone of the article, and also to improve the continuity and flow.

B. MoS compliance:
Sections have to be rearranged in a more topical fashion to improve flow, section titles also need work. Referencing style is inconsistent with templated links in some places, titled links in some, and bare links in other places. The lead is also too short and is not a summary of the article.
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:
Sources are included, but I have concerns on source quality and interpretation.

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
For a topic such as this, scholarly sources are available and providing a full quote of one line in an article as a summary for Srikantha's view on Karma isn't necessary or appropriate. Also, source concerns exist with others, e.g. 77, 12, etc.

C. No original research:
Ref 82 (page 10) doesn't even mention Yama but it is used as a cite for that text. I'm also unable to find this book on Worldcat or Amazon. In other areas, opinions of writers are provided as fact.
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:
Level 3 titles follow level 2 without any explanation. e.g. Shaivism section lists the views of three seers, but it lacks information on what Shaivist philosophy is or why these three seers represent Shaivism. The article consists of various clusters of information, but the linkage is missing and therefore the breadth of coverage is not apparent.

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Only one image, could possibly use a couple more
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
The article has the potential to be brought up to GA standards, however, the opportunities for improvement identified above will have to be addressed. I expect this to take some time and effort and am therefore not placing the nomination on hold. Once these concerns are addressed, I would suggest a peer review and then a renomination at WP:GAN –SpacemanSpiff 09:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shaivism is a branch of Hinduism that mentions Shiva as the supreme God; reference 82 mentions Yama as Yamaraj. Srikanta's views on karma are important and not mentioned in your citation. Raj2004 (talk) 12:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article does read like sermon sometimes, because it is a religious topic and it is partially built from sermons given by those who are considered an authority on the subject. It is not possible to completely avoid that without loosing some information, especially when it is not clear how to understand some explanations in the first place. There are priests studying Bible for 2000 years and what is the meaning of some sections is still questioned. Now, how can you change the style, if you can not be sure, what the meaning is? I think that choosing the lowest common denominator, the man with the slowest mind and least understanding, as the reference of interpretation would not be a good idea. Atmapuri (talk) 16:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]