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Untitled[edit]

' Her novel, "To Miss with Love", based on the blog, was published in March 2011 and was an immediate success. '

- 7 days into the month of publication and it's an "immediate" success - by what measure? A bit premature to make such an assertion.

Date of birth[edit]

We currently have her year of birth (1973) sourced to a tweet [1], and while this isn't great sourcing it hasn't been challenged. She has just announced her birthday on twitter [2] so we now have 16 September 1973. I'm not intending to add this at the moment. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 15:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Two Birbalsinghs[edit]

Birbalsingh maintains that children of black and ethnic minority backgrounds are not sufficiently taught about British culture or Britishness in schools which has left them feeling "culturally excluded." She argues that such cultural exclusion happens due to teachers focusing more on the ethnicity of children over promoting British national identity,

However from Guyana Journal about Frank Birbalsingh:

As Indians from Guyana and Trinidad & Tobago were immigrating to Canada with their children, Birbalsingh recognized the need for them to have a forum where they could come to learn about their culture and feel a sense of their identity and heritage. From 1986 to 2000, Birbalsingh played a leading role in the Ontario Society for Services to Indo-Caribbean Canadians (OSSICC). Various activities were held to focus on the cultural awareness of Indians in the Caribbean.

Could it be that father and daughter have opposing views on the education of children of immigrants? If so, it could be interesting to add to the article. --Error (talk) 20:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You will need a source explicitly discussing that comparison to avoid WP:SYN. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 07:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Personal paragraph[edit]

Seems that her father and grandfather were high achieving, they don't merit inclusion in this article about their daughter/granddaughter, the usual Wikipedia format being eminent relatives linked in the brief summary at head of article. Neither of these individuals would merit mention imo. 82.37.47.101 (talk) 10:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fully agree. The Personal paragraph should not be devoted to her father/grandfather. 212.253.196.212 (talk) 21:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. You couldn't find one biographical article in fifty in any library encyclopaedia that deliberately omits the mention of parent. The principles as they apply in particular to a biography of a living person here on wiki is to write conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy, not be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. So to including material regards parent or grandparent of the subject. She has shared this information herself in publicly available interview, and others have then written about it. So we're fine on the privacy front, and on the reliable sources front. But the big thing is that, in this case, she has emerged as a teacher of note, and this has been shaped by the fact that at least one parent and one grandparent was a teacher. This has shaped her life. Very relevant. The big two real rules - is it notable, is it relevant to the subject - have been met. Unless we see a consensus emerge here, where it's clear that there should be no mention of father or grandfather, there is no cause for change. Indeed, now you've bought it up, I'd be interested to know if there is material about the subject's mother, and her influence on the subject.

Keep MatthewDalhousie (talk) 00:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with keeping biographical information in a biographical article. That Birbalsingh is from a family of educators, and that she's from a minority ethnic background are central to her notability. For good or ill, her whole public career is centred on these two pillars. IrishStephen (talk) 14:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

@Neorxxnawang I sense that you may not personally like the subject of this article, but it's not okay to vandalise pages which I think is what you were attempting here. Please don't do that again.

MatthewDalhousie (talk) 00:43, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]