Talk:Katie Walsh (politician)

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Requested move 3 May 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: No consensus (non-admin closure) - Yashovardhan (talk) 16:42, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Katie Walsh (politician) → Katie Walsh (political operative) – She is not a politician and has never held elective political office. She is primarily known as a political operative, which is different than politician. Marquardtika (talk) 17:11, 3 May 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm okay with changing "politician" to something else, but I don't think "political operative" is the best choice; I didn't find any other articles with that disambiguation. What about "political employee" or "political administrator"? Other ideas? —ADavidB 15:18, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I suggested "political operative" because that's how she's described in the first sentence of this page. But I'm fine with something else, too. How about just "Katie Walsh (politics)"? Marquardtika (talk) 16:08, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just "politics" would be fine with me. —ADavidB 11:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Here are some definitions of "politician" that come up: "a person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office"; "1) a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government, 2) a person engaged in party politics as a profession". Our own Wiktionary has "1) One engaged in politics, especially an elected or appointed government official. 2) Specifically, one who regards elected political office as a career. 3) A politically active or interested person."

It's borderline, but "professionally involved in politics" seems the primary meaning. Sure, it then says "especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office", but "especially" not "exclusively". My guess is that the current title will likely be best understood by and best serve the reader; I can't prove that. Anyway "political operative" is a subset of "politician", and makes for a longer title, overly precise. "Katie Walsh (politics)" isn't longer but you lose precision. Herostratus (talk) 10:08, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. Not everyone professionally involved in politics is a politician. Wikipedia has a number of entries such as Michael Gallagher (political advisor), Juan Hernandez (political advisor), Stephen Miller (political advisor), Neil Patel (political advisor) or Scott Reid (political advisor), which fit subject better that "(politician)". In addition to those there are Bill Burton (political consultant), Mark Campbell (political consultant), Robert Creamer (political consultant), Vincent Harris (political strategist), Scott Howell (political consultant), Joel Johnson (communications strategist) and a number of others with similar qualifiers, all of which, again, apply to subject more precisely than "(politician)". —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:56, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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