Talk:Khmeimim Air Base

Re: "Bays"

There was a request for clarification regarding the work "bays", namely it "is imprecise and not a typical term for an aircraft parking area. Are they revetments, designated parking spots on an apron, protective shelters, hangars, or something else?" All I can say at this time that this was the word in the quoted source. It has placed been in quotation marks. Ekem (talk) 21:20, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the response. But it still needs clarification, perhaps from another source (I looked up both cited sources; one page wouldn't load and the other didn't mention "bays") or by a more careful reading of the cited source. The solution is not to remove the clarification tag and it is not to put the word in quotation marks. Now we are left with an imprecise word (that is arguably not used correctly, even if a source used it), awkwardly punctuated, and no call for further clarification. If no one minds, I'll restore the clarification tag. Holy (talk) 22:39, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

As an interim fix, I've replaced "bays," which was supposedly in a cited source (though I can't find it in the cited sources) with "parking locations"; both "bay" and "parking location" are imprecise; "bay" is not a typical term for an aircraft parking area. Are the "bays" revetments, designated parking spots on an apron, protective shelters, hangars, or something else? If this cannot be determined, then perhaps the source that used "bays" can be quoted to a greater extent in order to show context, allowing the reader to understand better what was intended by "bays," or to show the reader that the source itself was dubious, imprecise, or inaccurate. I have restored the clarification tag and provided a more extensive explanation of the issue, which I've quoted here. Holy (talk) 22:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Here is the quotation from (currently) ref #2:"The airstrip is capable of accepting super-jumbo Antonov An-124 Ruslan and Tupolev Tu-76 transport aircrafts, and has bays for more than 50 military aircrafts: Sukhoi Su-24M bombers, Sukhoi Su-25 ground-support fighters, cutting-edge Sukhoi Su-34 bombers, Mil Mi-24 gunship helicopters and Mil Mi-8 support choppers." I agree with you that it is imprecise and hope we get more clarification in the future.Ekem (talk) 13:10, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Ekem. Yes, it appears we will have to wait for further clarification from other sources. Cheers! Holy (talk) 21:37, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Upmerge

I'm somewhat concerned at the creation of an additional article to cover an airport that already has an article, without any reported major structural changes consequent on declaring it an 'airbase'. Nowhere in the flurry of reporting of the Russian arrival at Latakia has there been any mention of creation of additional runways, major maintenance facilities, taxiways, air traffic control towers - anything that would make this 'airbase' more than the military use of parking facilities and hangers at the existing Latakia airport. Can anyone give me any solid evidence that any extra, permanent facilities, such as a separate runway, hangers, totally separate from the existing airport have been created? If not, this article should be merged with Bassel Al-Assad International AirportBuckshot06 (talk) 00:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

As the proposed merger target is Bassel Al-Assad International Airport, discussion should occur there. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Move to Khmeimim Air Base

There's no reason to use the '(air base)' disambiguator in the title: Khmeimim redirects here and there are no other articles with similar titles, i.e. no ambiguity whatsoever. The title as it is now is just confusing (and I notice a lot of similar articles have been titled in the same pointlessly redundant style. Any objection to the move? --Deeday-UK (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Ask User:CambridgeBayWeather he moved it from Khmeimim Air Base to Khmeimim (air base) on 27 July 2016. Gavbadger (talk) 19:52, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

While the U.S. Air Force's wide use has popularised the use of 'X Air Base' worldwide, anyone who has looked at Tim Vasquez's excellent Russian air bases site will have learnt that the VVS does not give its' bases any such 'X Air Base' official titles, and this was acknowledged by CambridgeBayWeather after he moved the Russian airbase articles back to X (air base) at my request. 'Pointlessly redundant' is actually standard Russian use, which by policy we should be following. Put another way, we would be creating a title which does not exist off Wikipedia if we refer to this as Khmeimim Air Base. There's room for debate about the spelling of the name, but none about the VVS's name of the installation. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

See aalso User talk:CambridgeBayWeather/Archive45#Russian military airfield names for the discussion. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:32, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

"Reactions" section POV

The "reactions" section seems to consist entirely of criticisms. Undoubtedly though many are quite happy that the base is there. A more representative sampling of world opinion is needed. -2003:CA:83D2:8600:7516:521D:69D5:B9B4 (talk) 02:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)