Talk:LGBT rights in Kazakhstan

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Maybe I'm just not seeing them (or being a total Noob) but I don't see any references.--156.34.185.171 (talk) 01:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Soros report[edit]

At first glance, LGBT rights situation in Kazakhstan may appear neutral due to the lack of information and resources. It's actually as hostile as in many former USSR republics. Surrounding countries still outlaw sodomy. Majority of population is closeted, not many groups are active or able to get the information out of the country. Added 'Unacknowledged and Unprotected' Soros report of 2009 - the only thorough, recent study done on the subject that I was able to find. 100+ pages, has a wealth of information and personal accounts if anyone is willing to dig. --Xargs (talk) 22:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than referring to the abstract, the actual report is at http://www.soros.kz/sites/default/files/LGBT_report_end_web_1.pdf, which contains (along with much anecdote) useful, encyclopaedic material. Rich Farmbrough, 15:07, 16 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]

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Military[edit]

Hi @Lmharding and @Eustatius Strijder.

My thoughts on the source regarding military acceptance of LGBT people are:

It does not allow us to say: "Lesbians, gays and bisexuals are allowed to serve in the military but discrimination occurs and leads to LGBT Kazakhs being turned away." in Wikipedia's voice. Note that the TengriNews says of the General Staff of the Armed Forces: "Zhusupov noted that his phone number was published on the website of the Ministry of Defense, but over the past two years he has never received calls or complaints about this."

I wonder if, Lmharding, when you mentioned in your ES: "just looked at the source it does say that the Kazakh military gets reports and calls complaining about discrimination" you were thinking of the part where he is quoted as saying:

"Every day I receive dozens of phone calls, both parents and citizens of military age call. But I don't know of such a fact that they are refused. Because the medical board or the draft board that makes the decisions is looking at the issue from all sides. But no one will violate the laws that exist. Another question is if there are other deviations in health, including mental ones. But I repeat, there is no legal barrier to denying such categories of citizens service in the Armed Forces, other troops and military formations. If there are specific cases, I am ready to talk with each such citizen myself and take part in this issue," Zhusupov assured. [My emphasis]

If it's that part you mean, it is saying the opposite: He doesn't get calls complaining. I'm only raising this for discussion, so please just let me know both your thoughts. Thanks. AukusRuckus (talk) 05:58, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]