Talk:Languages of Iraq

Akkadian

There is no connection between Akkadian and the modern Neo-Aramaic languages except that they are Semitic languages. A single wordlist from a highly POV website is not a reliable source and is not sufficient to make the assertion here in Wikipedia. (Taivo (talk) 00:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC))

It is reliable if those words are "in use" today in the neo Aramaic (Assyrian-Chaldean) dialects, which they are.

As i mentioned, very little study has been done on the subject, so the most reliable sources are bound to be from existing speakers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinharib99

Actually recent studies by Geoffery Khan suggest a link between neo-Aramaic and Akkadian. (see [1], his latest book on the neo-Aramaic dialect of Qaraqosh has more insights)--Rafy talk 16:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

There is no linguistic reason to isolate Mandaic from the other Neo-Aramaic varieties. (Taivo (talk) 00:38, 22 February 2010 (UTC))

Languages of Iraq : Arabic ,Kurdish ,Turkish,Assyrian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.98.169.200 (talk) 20:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

South Azeri vs. Turkish

Ethnologue is quite clear in the distinction, compare azr with tur.--Rafy talk 16:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

The first two of Turko's references are not linguistic ones, so they don't count as reliable sources in a linguistic discussion. The third reference clearly states that the language is as much Azeri as it is Turkish and that most of the Turkish influence is in the writing system. Two linguistically reliable sources that clearly and unambiguous include Iraqi Turkmen in South Azeri are Ethnologue and Linguasphere (David Dalby, 1999/2000, The Linguasphere Register of the World's Languages and Speech Communities). In addition, there is Hendrik Boeschoten, 1998, "The Speakers of Turkish Languages," The Turkic Languages, Routledge, pp. 1-15, "There is a Turkish- or rather Azerbaijanian-speaking part of the population of northern Iraq which is sometimes called 'Turkmen'..." (pg. 5). These linguistic references trump any non-linguistic things. The linguistic evidence is crystal clear--the Iraqi Turkmens speak South Azeri and the linguistic sources say that specifically. --Taivo (talk) 16:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Ethnologue also states that the Turkmen made up 600,000 yet you seemed to disagree with that also. Ethnologue is not enough to support such a claim, especially when the community itself claims to speak Turkish.Turco85 (Talk) 23:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

If you bothered to read my comment, you would see THREE reliable linguistic sources in my comment, not just Ethnologue. And communities are notoriously unreliable in telling what they speak. There are a wide variety of sociological reasons why a group might say they speak X when they really speak Y. I can list two or three cases without even trying. --Taivo (talk) 00:32, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

There is a fundamental difference between reliable LINGUISTIC sources and simple political, ethnographic, or sociological sources. The former are reliable sources upon which to base linguistic statements. The latter are NOT. I have provided reliable linguistic sources for the statement that the Iraqi Turkmen speak a South Azeri variety. You have not. The single linguistic source which you included also states that while they use Turkish for a written language, their spoken language is closer to Azeri. --Taivo (talk) 00:48, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Turkmen, Syriac and Asuri have been added to the official languages of Iraq

Three more languages recognized officially in Iraq Turkmen, Syriac and Asuri have been added to the official languages of Iraq.[2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.160.198.85 (talk) 17:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

This source reports that “[t]he Official Languages Act was passed by the House of Representatives on Tuesday, January 7” 2014 and that Syriac, Armenian and “the language spoken by the Turkmens” are now “among the official languages of the Country”. I would like to read this Official Languages Act. LiliCharlie (talk) 18:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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