Talk:Last Train to Trancentral

Last Train to Trancentral was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 28, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
February 14, 2010	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

The KLF (inactive)

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Resources[edit]

http://www.libraryofmu.org/display-resource.php?id=507

--kingboyk 04:33, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "string-orchestrated break" - is that an original piece of work or a sample? I presume you're referring to the piece just before "This is what KLF are about"? It's so uplifting and for me it's the KLF's signature. I'm transported to Trancentral (the mythical one, not Jimmy's dirty old squat) whenever I hear it :) (Why is space cadet a red link? hmm). --kingboyk 23:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I got the impression it was original to Go To Sleep, which really ought to be mentioned in this article, though determining what came from where is tricky :) --juli. ^{t ?} 11:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just couldn't believe how good those strings were when I first heard them, in the Lost Continent edit. Someone made me a rave tape in 1991 and LTTT seemed "light years ahead".

I am only now accruing the White Room OST tracks, through filesharing, so now I finally understand things like where the Moody LTTT mixes have their roots. Yes, "Go To Sleep" needs to be in here, doesn't it? I've never seen a reference to those strings in sample lists, and I think they're original work. --Vinoir 10:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you got the White Room demo album in it's entirety yet? It's very different. I can't say which is "best" but both versions are essential. I'm not sure about "Go To Sleep" (I'm listening to JAMS LP4 now to find out), now whether it's important enough to mention or verifiable. --kingboyk 12:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's a real eye-opener, the demo album. I haven't heard it all yet, but I'm working on that (downloading is a s-l--o---w business). I've got "Go To Sleep", and it's the instrumentation that appears further down the line (pardon the pun) on Chill Out and LTTT Pure Trance. So it seems that "Go To Sleep" has the origins, and we can verify the dates with sources from the Library of Mu.

As for this article, it might be appropriate to mention "Sleep". I reckon in the bigger picture it all boils down to whether a track listing for The White Room bootleg is important enough to add to The White Room article. If so, it would be natural to briefly compare the released and unreleased versions, including the fact that "Sleep" mutated into LTTT. If we did that, it would merit a mention here too. The unreleased track listing isn't totally trivial, because it shows the evolution of White Room, and highlights the impact that the Pure Trance stuff had on KLF (it was popular, KSTJ wasn't, so they shelved the OST and changed direction). But is it important enough?!? --Vinoir 17:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well if you have any problem finishing it let me know. I've a near complete KLF collection (just about all I'm lacking is recent discoveries and new releases (last couple of years), and good quality video rips. (I have a lot of the material in VCD quality, but I'm lacking a few things like the Omnibus documentary and the Waiting vid)).

Anyway!... Yes, you were both right about Go To Sleep. Seems to me to be the same sequencing rather than a sample though? It sounds less like strings and more like synths in that version, to me at least. Coverage of the demo album would be fine, we just have to remember two things (that we've done quite well on so far) - 1) everything should be verifiable; 2) don't go mad with the fancruft, and consider what a reasonably interested reader might want to hear about. I think somebody who is interested enough in The KLF to read about The White Room would like to hear about the very different version that got scrapped, don't you? :) --kingboyk 18:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the offer of help with the collection. :) So far, the things I've looked for have (amazingly, sometimes) appeared ripe for picking, but if I get confounded, I shall let you know. I agree regarding Go To Sleep and The White Room. The released version of White Room is an important album so, yep, I reckon the details about the OST should be of interest to anyone who chooses to read to article. --Vinoir 18:07, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pure Trance vs. Pure Trance (Remixes)[edit]

I know a lot of compilations and the like call the remix version of PT LTTT "The Pure Trance Original", but the only KLF008 we have is KLF008R, with KLF008T having been (originally) "E-Train to Trancentral", which I don't think an original has surfaced of? See also [1]. Does one ignore the "REMIX" in the upper-right of the PT 5 sleeve, and call it the Pure Trance version, or call it by the (Remix 1) or (Remix 2) name? --juli. ^{t ?} 15:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I personally use Lazlo's discography as updated at klf.de. Seems to be the closest we have to an authoratitive source. --kingboyk 15:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Song samples[edit]

Clips of the two main single mixes would be good. --kingboyk 07:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreement. --Vinoir 10:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Promotion[edit]

I have recently reviewed this article & found that it meets the criterion for being a good article. So I have promoted it to GA status. My congratulations to all the contributors for doing a fine job.

Cheers

Srik e it^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 12:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one, thank you for taking the trouble to review the article. --Vinoir 12:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment[edit]

I'm reassessing this article for GA sweeps. After reading through it, I found the following problems:

Ref #17 (charts-surfer) is a deadlink.
Origins and versions opening paragraph is unsourced.
The LP and Stadium House versions are unsourced.
The three music files are really not necessary; pick one and have the other two deleted. All three are also too long to be legitimate fair use.
Blue Man group stuff needs sourcing, and the reaction should be expanded if possible, and if not combined into one paragraph.
"It was used by Exeter City fc during their promotion season 2007-08 prior to kick-off in order to generate an atmosphere" Link Exeter City and write it properly.
No proper fair use rationale for the logo, and it doesn't explain why it's needed.
The first ref isn't even a citation; it's a note requesting a citation!

Based on all these issues, I don't think they could all be fixed within a week, and as such I'm delisting this article now. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 18:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Houston, we have a time frame problem[edit]

The Larry Flick quote from Billboard has him referring to "Justified & Ancient" with Tammy - but that didn't come out until 8 months later. So somebody's gotten something out of whack somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.73.221 (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]