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Quality and title of the article[edit]

The 'article' by my dear colleague User:Gnomsovet is totally unacceptable. The text is simply illiterate and also unsourced. --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 09:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, anyway it is clearly not a test article. I have tagged it with a few tags and if the article would not be improved in a few days, I suggest to return to my version: redirect to Führerprinzip. The Russian article ru:Вождизм has Führerprinzip as its English interwiki so there are some sense in it. On the other hand Vozhdism is a Russian thing while Führerprinzip deals only with German usage Alex Bakharev (talk) 09:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article should be moved back to Vozhdism. 'Leaderism' does not make much sense in English and the article as it was mainly dealt with Russian subjects, thus justifying the use of a Russian term. --Miacek (t) 17:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gorky on leaderism[edit]

“Leaderism” is a disease of the times, resulting from the lowered vitality of philistinism, from the sense of its inevitable downfall in the combat between capitalist and proletarian, and from fear of destruction – a fear which drives the philistine to the side he has long been accustomed to regard as physically the strongest, to the side of the employer, the exploiter of other people’s labour, the plunderer of the world. Inwardly, “leaderism” is the fruit of effete, impotent and impoverished individualism; outwardly, it takes the form of such festering sores as, for instance, Ebert, Noske, Hitler and, similar heroes of the capitalist world. Here, where we are creating a socialist world, such sores are of course impossible. But we still have a few pustules left among us as a heritage from philistinism – people who are incapable of appreciating – the essential distinction between “leaderism” and leadership, although the distinction is quite obvious: leadership, placing a high value on men’s energy, points the way to the achievement of the best practical results with the minimum expenditure of forces, while “leaderism” is the individualistic striving of the philistine to overtop his comrade, which can be done easily enough given a mechanical dexterity, an empty head and an empty heart. - "Soviet Literature", A 1934 speech by Maksim Gorky.

Please someone smart, summarize this into the article. Timurite (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The domain of leaderism[edit]

Several researchers: O’Reilly and Reed (2010, 2011,2012), Bresnen et al (2015) and Wallace et al (2023) have extended the domain of leaderism to include the public sector in the UK. The full references for the publications of these researchers are listed below. Does anyone consider that the above five publications merit a recategorization of the article to reflect the extension of its original domain?

References Bresnen, Mike et al. 2015. Leadership talk: From managerialism to leaderism in health care after the crash. Leadership. 11 (4). 451-470. O'Reilly, Dermot and Mike Reed. 2010. ‘Leaderism’: An evolution of managerialism in UK public service reform. Public Administration. 88 (4). 960-978. O’Reilly Dermot and Mike Reed. 2011. The grit in the oyster: Professionalism, managerialism and leaderism as discourses of UK public services modernization. Organization Studies. 32 (8). 1079-1101. O’Reilly, Dermot and Mike Reed. 2012. ‘Leaderism’ and the discourse of leadership in the reformation of UK public services. Chapter 2 in ‘Leadership in the public sector Promises and pitfalls’. Edited by Christine Teelken, Ewan Ferlie and Mike Dent. Abingdon, Oxfordshire: Routledge. Wallace, Mike et al. 2023. Developing public service leaders Elite orchestration, change agency, leaderism, and neoliberalization. Oxford: Oxford University Press. John Desmond (talk) 14:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Different language shenanigans[edit]

I rarely edit articles, let alone politics, so apologies if I'm writing this in the wrong place Anyways, I found out that this page has problems regarding different languages

In Russian, Leaderism is called "Вождизм/Vozhdizm", and apparently it has two copies on the Wikidata and a duplicate on the AZ wiki.

So:

Vozhdizm (main) - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108594200 (available in AZ, JP, KY, RU, UK) There is no EN link

Leaderism - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17051266 (avalibale in AZ and EN) Exact same thing, but has another page in AZ

I would gladly remove EN from Q17051266 and add it to Q108594200 myself, where all the other languages are, but it seems that someone has to do something with the second AZ article Meladoom2 (talk) 20:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]