Talk:Legacy of the Wizard

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"Drasle" is not the name of the family[edit]

The family's name is actually "Worzen" (see the end credits of the game). "Drasle" is a Japanese contraction for "DRAgon SLAYer" (the "e" at the end is pronounced with a long A sound). I've seen Worzen spelled two different ways, but that is their name.

86.147.209.204 01:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I got the Drasle family name from the instruction manual for the US release of Legacy of the Wizard. There were some pretty awful video game translations in those days. New User 23:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

Once again I don't know what picture to use for the infobox. I don't have an image of the game box cover, unless I get one from another internet site. I could get the cover of the instruction manual, but it looks a little inappropriate because it says "INSTRUCTION MANUAL" on the side. It wouldn't be hard to get an image of the title screen. Ideas? - New User 17:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I added an image I got from Amazon. I am still a little confused about all that fair use stuff but it seems I have done it like images I have seen in other articles, and any copyright infringement I have caused is a result of my own ignorance. I hope it's not a problem. - New User 07:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

I can add the character picture from the game instruction manual for each of the characters. I know it's not very important for an encyclopedia article but it would make it look better. The only thing I'm worried about is that fair use stuff. I noticed that the article for Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom is kind of heavy in the fair use pictures, especially in the characters section. If it's OK for that article then it's OK for this one, right? - New User 18:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

I'm pretty much writing this article from my experience with the game and the information in the instruction manual. I am new at adding references to wikipedia articles, but I copied the citation format from Chrono Trigger. I figured it was probably the correct format for citing the game's instruction manual since it's a featured article, but if it's not correct then please change it. I think I've built this article up pretty well in the past 24 hours or so, but it looks like that's about all I can add without getting into too many irrelevant details of the game (that is, making it something other than an encyclopedia article). The problem is, it's not too easy to get information like reviews and such for a game this old. Any information about this game or the Japanese Dragon Slayer would be greatly appreciated, especially if someone has good sources. I lost all my old Nintendo Power issues years ago. - New User 15:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.uranus.dti.ne.jp/~sho-dsl/SDSLds4.html This links you to an interesting Japanese LOTW site.

lotw is the best game ever.

File:Pochi lotw.jpg
Pochi

Cheats?[edit]

Good god, this takes me back...one of the hardest games I'd ever played, and also had one of the most powerful cheats I've ever come across...it let you max out every item, and gave you 10 magic bread and 10 magic potions in reserve, just in case you ran out.

The reason I mention this is twofold: One, this game will liekly be rereleased for the Nintendo Wii and will therefore probably be of interest all over again, and two, that old man painting behind the family comes into play very heavily due to the cheat.

For posterity's sake, the cheat is included here. Good god, but it's convoluted...reminds me of the fake cheats I've seen for TLoZ: OOT to get the Triforce, but in fact, this one is real:

At the title screen, press and hold up and right, as well as A and B on the 2nd controller. Then hold left, down and Select on the 1st controller. ( You should still be holding the buttons on the second controller. It's very hard to do with one person) Then press Start on the 1st controller. If you entered the code correctly you should here a tone and be taken to the game.

This is part one.

Then, use the hand to point at the picture on the wall, and hit A to cycle through the songs. There are about 20 of them, but you have to spend a couple of seconds on each song for the cheat to work.

Next, select Roas (the boy) and go to the nearest shop, the one in the tree, and buy the crystal, even though you have no money. It will not allow you to, but on checking your inventory, you will have acquired the magical armor.

Most people stop here, having gotten free armor, but oh, there's more...

Go back to the house and select Roas again, equip him with the armor, then go outside and blow all your magic. the armor saps magic slowly, but you can speed it along by shooting the ground. When you run out of magic, you will hear a tone, the same one from the title screen that told you the code worked.

Go back into the house, and move the hand to point a little away to the right, parallel to the painting on the wall, but not on the picture, for the last part of the code. You need to hold left and B on the second controller, and right on the first controller. If you hold it down first on the second player and then right on the first player after, the hand will stop on the painting, unable to move with opposite directions being pressed. Then, press A on the first controller, and press it a few more times, and you will hear that familiar tone again.

That's it. But when you've done that, you will have:

16 of every item (except the crowns and the dragonsword, you still need to find those) maximum life (the bar is full, and you have 10 elixers backed up as well) maximum magic (same as life) maximum keys (see above) maximum gold (see above as well)

All you need to do is collect one key and one bag of money to max out your keys and money.

be forewarned however: first off, if you collect any bread or potions, you will lose life or magic, and if you save your password, you will reload to find you have one of each item and your life and magic and keys and money are no longer maxed out.

Anyway, yeah...I think at the very least, the painting deserves a mention, if not as well the most convoluted cheat I've ever seen in all my video game years...

1 through 3?[edit]

This game is title Dragon Slayer IV in Japan. Does anyone have any information on 1 through 3? There don't seem to be any articles in wikipedia about it. --72.43.103.251


Article Title[edit]

Unless we have separate articles, I feel one article for all versions of a game should be titled to reflect how the game was originally known, not the name given later for a particular (US) market. Renfield (talk) 12:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • We have redirects from Dragon Slayer IV and the like. However, since Legacy of the Wizard is the most common name for the game in the English-speaking market, that should be the title. --UsaSatsui (talk) 19:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • But "Legacy of the Wizard" is not simply a different name for a straight translation. It's a different game (e.g. dungeon layout changes), for a different system, with different artwork. We are talking about a game made originally by the Japanese for the Japanese. The details of Broderbund's product should be relegated to a sub-paragraph. Renfield (talk) 20:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Do you have any sources saying the game was different between releases? If they're not the same game, we should have two different articles. But the most common name for the game should be used regardless. --UsaSatsui (talk) 22:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • This page describes the differences, although that's not the point. The title and artwork alone of "Legacy of the Wizard" were produced by a different company than the creators of the game in question. We are giving a clone the focus, a port which came out years later. This article should describe an MSX game called Dragon Slayer IV. Renfield (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • The game is much more popularly known in the English-speaking world as "Legacy of the Wizard". If the versions are different, there should be info about the changes between the original and the port...note, though, that when porting between systems, a certain amount of change is gonna happen. If the games are substantially different, there should be different articles about them. But that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm not seeing any reason to change the title. --UsaSatsui (talk) 22:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
            Also, that page describes the games as not substantially different. --UsaSatsui (talk) 03:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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