Talk:Leila Hassan

A fact from Leila Hassan appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 July 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Leila Hassan edited the journal Race Today and was a member of the British Black Panthers and the Black Unity and Freedom Party?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the activist Leila Hassan edited the journal RaceToday from 1986-91 and was an important figure in the Black Power movement in Britain?~~ Source: "the Race Today Collective featured powerful voices like Leila Hassan" in Recliaming our Space by Feminista Jones (2019) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VZ9bDwAAQBAJ&vq=hassan&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 15:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hiya just passing by after making some edits on the article, nice one for creating it! I'd like to suggest an alt version, trying to make it a bit more hooky. Mujinga (talk) 14:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that Leila Hassan edited the journal Race Today and was an important figure in the British Black Panthers? Source1: "the Race Today Collective featured powerful voices like Leila Hassan" in Reclaiming our Space by Feminista Jones (2019) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VZ9bDwAAQBAJ&vq=hassan&source=gbs_navlinks_s and Source2: https://nationofbillions.com/unearthing-the-forgotten-history-of-the-british-black-panthers

Great! Happy with the hookier ALT1 (Lajmmoore (talk) 13:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Hello! Lovely article, I really enjoyed reading about Hassan and her work! This would be a great DYK hook for the front page! I agree with you both and prefer lajmmoore's hookier hook. I am new to the DYK review process so please forgive any errors in this process, but I do have a few suggestions for this article:

There are a few areas that I think should be re-phrased to comply with WP:IMPARTIAL , such as "The Race Today Collective was led and organised by a number of women, including Hassan, whose influence on its direction needs further recognition." - I think that the last part of this sentence might be more of an opinion than a fact and should be slightly re-phrased. A similar issue with "...IRR's paternalistic organisation, turning it into a more radical organisation" - perhaps a slight shift in phrasing would keep this claim truer to the source's calling the IRR's leadership "conservative" and keep clear of bias/opinion-as-fact.
Also - in this source, Hassan is listed as one of the editors, so I am not sure where that falls under WP:SELFPUBLISH. There are clearly enough other resources for notoriety, etc, I might just be careful with that source. -- Maybe a more experienced editor can comment on this!
I could not specifically find this in the Manual of Style - but I wonder if the section "personal life" should come before "career" for readability.
Should the fact she was a devout practitioner of Islam be mentioned in the article? Is it relevant to her career and the reasons why she is notable? Again, maybe a more experienced editor should comment here because I am not the most familiar with policies. I am looking at MOS:ETHNICITY for reference, although this is not in the lead paragraph so I am not sure the same applies. I personally assume there is a likely connection between her religious upbringing and her activism, but I think unless a reference specifically states their connection, it is maybe not great to single someone out with their religion if it is not relevant. Again... I may be wrong here! Hope that helps! Terasaface (talk) 15:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Terasaface: - thanks very much for all the detailed comments - I've made a few edits to the article, on most of the points, apart from:

this source, I've just cited it so the publication details of the book are there, but I don't think I've drawn any conclusions from it for the article.
In terms of personal/career - there is probably a logic to it, but at a training session we were encouraged to think about the most important aspects of a person's life and if possible put that first. So little is known about her personal life, that I thought it best to put career first. Happy for it to be moved though.
I put the reference to Islam in because so many sources about her mention it ... what I have done is changed the sentence, so the faith bit sticks out less.

Again, thanks very much - lots of great points that refine the article! (Lajmmoore (talk) 07:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Looks great, lajmmoore! Have you done a QPQ?

New enough, long enough, Copyvio ok at 16%, within policies, ALT1 hook formatting is interesting. Can approve once QPQ is addressed. Terasaface (talk) 00:40, 11 July 2020‎ (UTC)[reply]

@Terasaface: the nominator has less than 5 DYK credits, so no QPQ is necessary. Yoninah (talk) 23:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Yoninah!!Terasaface (talk) 18:33, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problems, ready for DYK Terasaface (talk) 18:33, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]