Talk:Leopold Schefer

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Rating[edit]

I rated the article "GA", since it seems well researched and written; with fine materials. Anyhow, it did not contest in any other quality ratings, so it could not be ranked higher (which I should have preferred). -- €pa 18:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For a GA it would need to go through the process. Personally I think the article could do with a few more elements, ie his life and pictures. Agathoclea 13:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, there are no pictures. For life and work, I added some materials. How to start the evaluation process? -- €pa 21:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All known pictures could be taken from the iconography in Bettina Clausen's Leopold Schefer Bibliographie, Frankfurt on Main: Bangert & Metzler 1985, ISBN 3-924147-10-8; technically, I cannot master this. -- €pa 16:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article has not been through the Good Article Nomination process (it is not listed on the Wikipedia:Good articles page); I have removed the Biography project GA rating. (I doubt this article would pass GA review in its present condition.) Magic♪piano 13:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Composer project review[edit]

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article is not B-class; it is missing major elements of the subject's life (most of his first 30+ years), in addition to numerous other defects. I'm demoting the article to Start; my full criticism is on the comments page. Questions or comments should be left here, or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 13:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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==Composers Project Assessment of Leopold Schefer: 2008-12-18==

This is an assessment of article Leopold Schefer by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

  • No coverage of early life.

===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • No biographic information until subject is 38. No coverage of his musical compositions.

===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • No coverage of his musical compositions.

===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

  • Written works only; nothing about his compositions.

===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

  • No critical or popular reception; minimal stylistic discussion

===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

  • Not really adequate; an image of a printed page does not really add value. No sound.

===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

  • Confusing footer material; which works listed have been consulted?

===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

  • footer material is mislabeled (WP:LAYOUT); quotes used in works are unorthodox for English WP

===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review===

  • Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE)
  • Article footer material needs organization (WP:LAYOUT)
  • Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE)
  • Article prose needs work (WP:MOS)
  • Article text formatting needs work (e.g. quotation methods, punctuation, inconsistent styles)

===Summary=== Someone, apparently a contributor to the article, saw fit to raise the Biographiy project rating of this article to GA (without the benefit of going through the GA nomination process. This article is not even close to that rating; it is a Start-class article.

A B-class article is assumed to have at least some material about all significant aspects of the subject. This article claims to be a biography, yet nothing of significance is mentioned until the subject is over 30 years old.

I suggest the editors working on this article familiarize themselves with the Biography project's assessment standards, and improve the article to meet them. Magic♪piano 13:40, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 13:40, 18 December 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 21:54, 29 April 2016 (UTC)