Talk:Lew Cirne

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racial justice section[edit]

The Racial Justice section currently reads: "After internal disagreements about how to handle systemic racism, Lew Cirne sent a memo on June 19, 2020, to employees at New Relic that stated Black Lives Matter discussions were "off-the-table". And it cites this as the source: https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2020/07/new-relic-ceo-scolds-employees-in-internal-memo-we-are-a-company-with-an-urgent-need-to-get-back-on-track.html

I looked at that source. It only mentions Black Lives Matters once. "Like other large companies, New Relic has tweeted its support for the Black Lives Matter movement and pledged donations to support civil rights and the fight against racism."

The source doesn't say what the article text says. Not at all.

Failed verification. Deleting this section. Stanleydanley (talk) 16:11, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tracked down the specific revision that added the text in question (here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lew_Cirne&diff=next&oldid=1012685704&diffmode=visual). The user who did it is now blocked. So I am deleting this section from the article. Any questions, please leave a message here. Thanks. --Stanleydanley (talk) 16:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your assessment, and feel the article absolutely supports the original text.

While the article only references "Black Lives Matter" once (in a statement about New Relic as a company, not Lew as an individual), the following sentences, including the one about the discussion being "off the table", are clearly still talking about Black Lives Matter. Just because the author of the article used pronouns and alternatives instead of saying "Black Lives Matter" every sentence, does not mean that that the topic shifted.

Please reinstate the section, as the source supports the removed text wholly. Kyle Kneitinger (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]