Talk:Lisa Howard (American actress, born 1975)

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Requested move 25 February 2023[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Participants found the nominator's WP:INCDAB argument to be persuasive, especially given that the reporter receives more pageviews than this article's subject. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:39, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Howard (American actress) → Lisa Howard (American actress, born 1975) – Lisa Howard (American actress) is incomplete disambiguation since Lisa Howard (reporter) was also an American actress with numerous theater, film and television credits. I would likewise support the alternative options of Lisa Howard (American actress) → Lisa Howard (2000s American actress) or Lisa Howard (American actress) → Lisa Howard (21st century American actress) since the acting career of Lisa Howard (reporter) was concentrated during the 1950s and she died in 1965. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:49, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. If one is notable primarily as an actress and the other as a reporter, there's no problem with the titles. The most we need is a hatnote for those few readers who might know the reporter only as an actress. Station1 (talk) 03:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Those who may be interested in the history of entries for the three actresses listed upon the Lisa Howard disambiguation page can note that the earliest one was the stub for Lisa Howard (Canadian actress), created in April 2007 as simply "Lisa Howard". As of this writing, it remains a six-sentence stub.

Five months later, in September 2007, a stub was created for Lisa Howard (reporter), although it could have been also titled Lisa Howard (actress, born 1926) or Lisa Howard (American actress) since she had a fifteen-year (1944–1959) acting career during which she co-starred in five films and hundreds of television episodes, including years in soap operas. Her TV career was a fairly major one which included being featured on the cover of People Today, captioned as "TV's First Lady of Sin".

That stub was subsequently expanded into a full-length article, but the stub for the Canadian-born actress Lisa Howard remained as the un-disambiguated putative primary topic despite the creation, in May 2014, of a stub for the third actress named "Lisa Howard" — Lisa Howard (American actress).

A year and two months later, in July 2015, an editor took the unilateral step of moving the entry for the actress born in Canada from "Lisa Howard" to "Lisa Howard (Canadian actress)" while at the same exact time (23:40, 6 July 2015) creating the Lisa Howard disambiguation page listing the three actresses.

Although the above nomination has been submitted, it would ultimately seem that, rather than disambiguating the actresses by nationality, the more intuitive method would be to disambiguate them by year of birth — Lisa Howard (actress, born 1963) for the one born in Canada, Lisa Howard (actress, born 1975) for the one born in the United States and Lisa Howard (news personality) for Lisa Howard (reporter) whose career as the initial American actress named "Lisa Howard" lasted from 1944 to 1959, while her newsworthy career as a television news personality (not simply a "reporter") lasted from 1960 through 1964.

Interestingly, the incomplete disambiguation Lisa Howard (actress) continues to remain as a redlink despite the fact that all three notable women listed upon the Lisa Howard dab page have been actresses. It may be of additional interest that IMDb also lists a fourth actress named "Lisa Howard", with 19 acting credits in British TV episodes and short films produced between 2000 and 2022. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 18:20, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support the reporter has 1,687 views compared with only 711 for the 1975 one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:46, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and Crouch, Swale. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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