Talk:List of English-language idioms of the 19th century

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Origin of this page[edit]

The Nuttall Encyclopedia, 1907 edition, defines a number of late 19th century idioms in ways that don't lend themselves to individual Wikipedia articles. The origin of this page was to provide a way to cover these concepts so that the goals of the Nuttall Encyclopedia coverage project could be met.

Note this page is about idioms, not similes, slang etc. It is built on the same principles as List of idioms in the English language. Other editors may want to extend the list back in time, or into the early 20th century, or to other parts of speech, although it would be a good idea to consider the organization of such lists carefully. David Brooks 22:44, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Other languages[edit]

There are lists for other languages like List of French phrases and List of Latin phrases. Should expressions like "Gens togata" go to this list? Also, before, denotions like "Admirable Doctor" for Bacon have been made into redirects.--J heisenberg 11:32, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

On the Latin phrases - that's probably a good idea so long as there is some way of marking the phrase as obsolete or archaic (which is an interesting notion for Latin or Ancient Greek). Should we keep the information that the usage is outdated even among latinophones?

Redirects[edit]

On the redirects - using the list clearly marks the usage as archaic, while throwing it into the main article can seem gratuitous. If you do make a redirect, the target has to mention the alternate name in an obvious way, to avoid reader astonishment. In the particular case of Bacon, according to the current article "doctor" is today considered wrong anyway - see this diff - and the redirect (I see you made it) is only explicable if you can translate the Latin, admittedly not a challenging task. David Brooks 17:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bother. I forgot that redirecting to a tag doesn't work[1]. All the redirs land at the top of this page. David Brooks 17:40, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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"Goody-two-shoes" and redirections?[edit]

"Goody-two-shoes" is redirected to this page, but I don't see any reference to that phrase. Perhaps I missed it, or perhaps the redirection ought to be canceled (however that's done). Furthermore, how would one check other redirections to this page to see if they are still valid? 75.15.118.69 (talk) 01:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]