Talk:List of European countries by minimum wage

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Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus[edit]

Next to the Kosovo, the data about TRNC can be also included. The minimum wage there is 3150 try/month. It is around 1.8 dollar/hour.

Neto or Bruto?[edit]

These numbers represent bruto or neto wages in euro? --Calimero (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Switzerland[edit]

In the map, Switzerland is drawn in black, but there is no minimal wage in Switzerland. The list seems right, as it doesn't appear.

Portugal[edit]

Portugal's minimum wage as of Jan 2009 is 475 euros, payed in 14 installments. Just like in Spain. So if you're going to put the figures for Spain like that, I suggest doing the same for Portugal.

I made the correction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.54.109.191 (talk) 15:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is already a page similar to this called List of minimum wages in Europe. 98.203.152.242 (talk) 20:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Performed merge. ConorBrady.ie (caint)
I think the article must me update 21:51, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Slovakia[edit]

In Slovakia is since 2014, 352€ - 2,03 €/hour. Please add in the picture if you will actualise it.--78.128.161.106 (talk) 17:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Germany[edit]

Map colour regarding Germany must be updated, latest by January 2015. Monart (talk) 05:14, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Error[edit]

Map is incorrectly showing Lithuania-Russia border, Kaliningrad territory should be shown as Russia not as Lithuania. [[1]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monart (talk • contribs) 13:10, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

UK-Ireland Boarder[edit]

I checked by zooming in and I can't see the boarder between the UK and Ireland on the map. Unfortunately, this map is .jpg and not .svg, which makes it harder to correct. Ezza1995 (talk) 14:47, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia - Abkhazia[edit]

Minimum wage per hour is given, while the map expects a monthly one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:818:E870:5600:3432:F440:D5C6:33F0 (talk) 19:10, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AR Abkhazia is part of Georgia. AR Abkhazia is not sovereign state. AR Abkhazia is not member of the Council of Europe, the United Nations or any other European, or international group of sovereign countries. In Europe, only Russian Federation recognize so called independence of Abkhazia, which is against the international law. Abkhazia is not even member of Eurasian economic union, or ODKB, or CIS, all led by Russian Federation, because other former soviet states do not recognize so called independence of Abkhazia. That is why AR Abkhazia can not be on this list of sovereign states in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.55.79 (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Serbia - Kosovo[edit]

I'll just copy/paste things said about Abkhazia and Georgia. Because Abkhazia is removed from the list, Kosovo must be removed also. There is no difference between these cases. Removing Abkhazia and leaving Kosovo is violation of Wikipedia neutral policy.

Kosovo is part of Serbia. Kosovo is not sovereign state. Kosovo is not member of the Council of Europe, the United Nations or any other European, or international group of sovereign countries. United Nations doesn't recognize so called independence of Kosovo, which is against the international law. That is why Kosovo can not be on this list of sovereign states in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobNesh (talk • contribs) 23:54, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BobNesh. if you'd kindly note that I was merely reverting to the stable version, that is, before this whole mess started, which is when Kosovo was present in the list. I'm not interested in discussing the merits of Kosovo and sovereignty: that's for someone like Ambidibody to go over, who, incidentally, has taken you to ANI twice over this. Dschslava Δx parlez moi 02:14, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Kosovo's status on the list is a separate matter from the status of any other possible listing. Because one is off the list doesn't mean the other should be. As far as not being in any international groups of sovereign countries that is wrong. Kososvo is a member of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, The Regional Cooperation Council, Council of Europe Development Bank, Venice Commission and I'm sure I've missed something. None of which matter because under international there is no recognized body for state recognition. Statehood recognition is a matter left to the discretion of individual states. Kosovo meets the Constitutive theory, Declarative theory, and operates as a state. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 03:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Merge Proposal List of European countries by average wage[edit]

An rfc to merge these two articles has been opened at Talk:List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage#RFC:_Merge_proposal_with_List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_minimum_wage. All interested Parties please join there.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 21:50, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine[edit]

There are plans to increase the minimum wage in Ukraine starting 1 January 2017; see here . — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

annonymous editor added incorect data[edit]

Whats happened all table is wrong. Restore table to 2016 12 31 data eimis (talk) 20:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Romania[edit]

According to sources, 200 RON from the 3000 RON will be free from taxes. So calculating with these datas, the net minimal wage will be 385€. https://maszol.ro/belfold/Haromezer-lejre-emelnek-a-minimalbert-amibol-200-lej-adomentes-lenne Keehnan455 (talk) 21:04, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. --Dhyana b (talk) 15:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Minimum wage in Turkey[edit]

How can the minimum wage in Turkey be €430, whereas the average wage is €303?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's simple. The average wage value is for the year 2022, while this year's minimum wage was raised since January 1st. Adding to that, we have to take into account the massive inflation that struck Turkey last year (and is still ongoing to a degree). In a few months, we'll see the average wage being reported above the minimum wage value, most likely. Dhyana b (talk) 01:29, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing that out.
I tried to fix it several times but they keep reverting it back, at this point I just assume it's due to Turkophobia. Mavreju (talk) 06:22, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for the map categories[edit]

Hello,

Ok, so, for the Net income map, we have the following color categories:

Red: below €250 (€250 range)

Yellow: €250 to €499 (€250 range)

Blue: €500 to €1,000 (€500 range)

Purple: above €1,000 (indefinite)

Which makes sense, because after a certain level, the difference in standard of living between every additional €100 becomes smaller.


However, for the Gross income map we see:

Red: below €400 (€400 range)

Yellow: €400 to €699 (€300 range)

Blue: €700 to €1500 (€800 range)

Purple: above €1500 (indefinite)


Here, the range of the 2nd category seems unusually narrow, especially compared to the 3rd category. After all, a €700 gross income reflects a standard of living closer to the €400 level than the €1500 one. And I think it would make more sense to adjust the ranges to:

Red: below €400 (€400 range)

Yellow: €400 to €799 (€400 range)

Blue: €800 to €1500 (€700 range)

Purple: above €1500 (indefinite)


In order for the classification to also mirror the Net income map. I don't mind the €1,500 delimitation in the remaining 2 categories because it's a round number & visually makes sense. However, that 'Yellow' range doesn't really make sense & isn't efficient, in my opinion. That's why I propose to widen it by €100.

Thank you! Dhyana b (talk) 14:26, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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