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Lesbos[edit]

I doubt that the population of Lesbos island is 108.000. The 2005 estimated population of Lesbos (Lesvos) prefecture in 2005 was 110,220, but this includes Lemnos (population 18,104 in 2001) and Agios Efstratios (population 371 in 2001). I therefore correct the figure to 91,000. Antipoeten 22:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Södermalm[edit]

The notes to the table say that Södermalm was excluded because it's not an island. But the article about it says that it is an island, and looking at the Google Maps satellite image it appears to be an island. So what is the argument that it isn't an island? --Metropolitan90 05:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. This is the quote from the Swedish wiki-article on Södermalm: Södermalm är formellt inte en ö eftersom vattnet vid Karl-Johansslussen och Hammarby sluss inte kan passera fritt. Translated to English this should be: Södermalm is not formally an island because the water cannot pass freely through Karl Johan lock (lock chamber) and Hammarby lock (lock chamber). I am not sure if this exclusion of Södermalm as an island is correct. Originally it must have been an island, and seen on a map it looks like an island. So okay, I add it to the list anyway. Antipoeten 23:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Santorini[edit]

According to this site it seems like the population of Santorini prefecture is 11,984 (2001). This prefecture seems to include the island of Therasia with a population of 268 (2001). I therefore think the correct 2001 figures for Santorini Island should be 11,716 (2001). http://www.ellada.net/ellada/regions-santorini.php Antipoeten 23:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Madeira and Azores Islands[edit]

Some one has added Madeira Island plus Pico Island of the Azores. Even if they belong to Portugal, they should not count as European islands.Antipoeten (talk) 17:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Madeira Islands are in Africa, but the Azores are certainly in Europe. 213.22.24.138 (talk) 04:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the Azores are "European" islands. They should be included in this list. As of 18 February 2009 they are not here. Mountleek (talk) 14:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree also, because they are certainly not in Africa or North America. I will add them immediately.Antipoeten (talk) 01:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Mountleek (talk) 20:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chioggia[edit]

It should not be on the list. It is not an island, but a paeninsula.--Gspinoza (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It says in Wiki that it is a "small island". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chioggia Antipoeten (talk) 01:27, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus[edit]

The Republic of Cyprus is the only internationally recongized country representing the whole of the island of Cyprus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charischri (talk • contribs) 14:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above is not correct, while Northern Cyprus is not internationally recognised as representing the island of Cyprus, the UK is recognised and responsible for the Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (Περιοχές Κυρίαρχων Βάσεων Ακρωτηρίου και Δεκέλιας) PompeyTheGreat (talk) 23:42, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus in Asia[edit]

Why is Cyprus listed in Europe? Islands are primarily subject to physical geography, not to socio-economic geography or political geography. So from the physical geography point of view, it should be listed as an Asian island, shoudn't it? Mountleek (talk) 17:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Csepel Island?[edit]

Csepel Island has a population of 166735 (sourcing from articles of towns on Csepel Island and citypopulation.de for Csepel's population itself) but it is a freshwater island. Should it be included? 81.182.87.126 (talk) 06:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, IJsselmonde is on the list so there is a precedent to do so. It could be explained in the introduction that freshwater islands are included. Potentially, entries about freshwater islands could be market with a different background colour. --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 18:45, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Canary Islands[edit]

Should the Canary Islands be added? They are part of Spain, but are geographically significantly separated from the European continent. All of their islands have a population of at least 10.000, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_Islands#Population_of_the_individual_islands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.58.143 (talk) 20:46, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Islands of the Netherlands[edit]

No island of the Netherlands are included in the list. According to wikipedia Texel and Dordrecht islands for example have populations greater than 10,000 people.Oberoende (talk) 16:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Island of ireland ROI/UK[edit]

I would point out that the island of Ireland contains territory of the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom and as such, I have added both flags to the entry. If possible I may add (Nothern Ireland) after the reference to the UKPompeyTheGreat (talk) 23:08, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would also like to add that this isn't meant to be a political statement and merely reflects the reality that this is an article on islands, and the link to Ireland in the article links to the island, not the Republic of Ireland, and as such mentions both the ROI and Northern Ireland. The UK is recognised internationally as holding territory on the Island of Ireland, in the north, and the Republic of Ireland is likewise recognised as holding territory in the rest of the Ireland. Therefore when talking about the Island of Ireland, this list should give the names of all countries recognised to govern that geographic body. This can be confusing for international readers as Ireland also is often used to refer to the ROI, rather than the geographic expression of the island of Ireland, but in this instance, we are talking about the island of Ireland rather than any political state. PompeyTheGreat (talk) 23:13, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification: This is a different issue to the Cyprus issue as in that case The Republic of Cyprus is widely recognised as the sole legitimate claimant to govern that island, while whatever your views regarding Ireland, it is a fact that internationally, the UK is recognised with regards to Northern Ireland. I'd urge you please do not turn this into an editing war between unionists and republicans, because this is supposed to be an encyclopedia. PompeyTheGreat (talk) 23:22, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Agree on you on Ireland. But the Republic of Cyprus doesn't cover the entire island. The Republic of Cyprus belong within the European culture, but from a geographical perspective and referring to the island as such, perhaps more Asian. Just like the Canary Islands geographically (but not politically or culturally) are African. It's a good question, what this list should cover. From this aspect, Ireland should not be troublesome, the island (the entire island) is European. Boeing720 (talk) 02:16, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Canary Islands ?[edit]

Undoubdfully the Canary Islands are Spanish, and comprise two official Spanish districts or regions. But usually not considered a part of Europe (and most certainly not a part of the EU, and a free trade area). If the list is geographical rather than political, they belong under African islands. (Culturally untrue but still) Boeing720 (talk) 02:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Södertörn[edit]

I would argue this is not an island, as it partly is surrounded by a man-made channel, Södertälje kanal. If Södertörn is an island , then also most of Götaland constitutes an island. There is a waterway, beginning from Göta Älv river, at Gothenburg, upstreams to lake Vänern, followed by the west section of Göta kanal to lake Vättern and through Göta kanal's east section out to Bråviken, which is a fjord and a part of the Baltic Sea. Either both must count or none. If most of Götaland is an island, it counts around 4 million or more people. Boeing720 (talk) 08:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus note (regarding Turkey)[edit]

I've just removed a reference to Turkey on the Cyprus listing as Turkey neither holds nor claims territory over Cyprus. Northern Cyprus claims to be an independent state, so the appropriate flag if we included unrecognised states would be that, but as it is internationally recognised only by Turkey I would personally stick to the internationally recognised De Jure territories on the island of Cyprus, namely the Republic of Cyprus and the United Kingdom sovereign base area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PompeyTheGreat (talk • contribs) 15:30, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

cutoff number?[edit]

This list seems to be cut excluding islands with population of less than 10000. Is that intended to be this way, or random happenstance? Wefa (talk) 17:09, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Non-European islands should be removed[edit]

Non-European islands should be removed from the list: Tenerife (Africa), Cyprus (Asia), Gran Canaria (Africa), Madeira (Africa), Lanzarote (Africa), São Miguel Island (Mid-Atlantic), Rhodes (Asia), Fuerteventura (Africa), Lesbos Island (Asia), La Palma (Africa), Samos (Asia), Kos (Asia), La Gomera (Africa), Kalymnos (Asia), Faial Island (Mid-Atlantic), Pico Island (Mid-Atlantic), El Hierro (Africa), São Jorge Island (Mid-Atlantic). --Little bishop (talk) 00:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Akrotiri[edit]

Whoever keeps vandalising the Cyprus section, please stop.

The status of Akrotiri and Dhelika is not officially disputed between Cyprus and the UK (as much as some Cypriots and Cypriot politicians disagree with the UK on it). The disputed tag is only notable in this format if the territory is officially disputed and not recognised by the Cypriot government, but it isn't.

PompeyTheGreat (talk) 16:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PompeyTheGreat: The resolution passed by the Cypriot House of Representatives has legal force. It is "official", and it was accepted unanimously, not by some Cypriot politicians. According to this report by the UK government (https://books.google.com.cy/books?id=HhsZSMEH5DoC&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=Akrotiri+and+dhekelia+fishing+laws&source=bl&ots=mkFwl9IwwT&sig=ACfU3U2skV1_iTSvrjNgdxwvGOqAstkj6A&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Akrotiri%20and%20dhekelia%20fishing%20laws&f=false) "The government of the RoC acknowledges the UK's sovereignty over the SBAs, although it believes that the UK's sovereignty is limited". This directly states that the government does recognise the dispute (although only partially). However, if you don’t consent to the edits then I'll stop. Just note that I was not attempting to push any political propaganda but only adding to the article, and I was definitely not attempting to vandalise it.

KnolGua (talk) 23:46, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]