Talk:List of Spanish–American War monuments and memorials

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The Hiker[edit]

Hi, stumbled on your new article via the WP:New Page Patrol and added the Louisiana monument. Decided to let you know that the Louisiana monument is just a fraction of the Spanish War related public works created by Theo Alice Ruggles Kitson. So if you are looking for 50 other Spanish War monuments... they are listed under The Hiker (Kitson) and are spread out all over the United States. - DavidDelaune (talk) 22:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:DavidDelaune: Thanks. Feel free to expand it by adding more monuments/memorials to this list.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:59, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are two series of The Hiker statues - one by Newman and one by Kitson. They are located all over the U.S. There are two great wikipedia pages for each of them. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hiker_(Kitson)&oldid=943479664 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hiker_(Newman)&oldid=920642670 I would think that this article should include a section about them with a link to each of them. Jvas41 (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rico ones[edit]

Yauco Battle Site, in Puerto Rico, which is part of the U.S., is listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places. I don't know that there is any specific memorial there though. If there are any monuments/memorials in Puerto Rico they do belong on this list, though, IMHO. --Doncram (talk) 18:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! We need to find the relevant monuments outside the US too.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, good, but PR is inside the U.S., actually. And, Monumentos y tumbas of "La Guerra Hispano Americana en Puerto Rico" seems on point, with 11 items, most or all with photos, including "El monumento en Guánica a los veteranos de la Guerra Hispano Americana".

And, why is this list-article not titled to be a general list of Spanish-American War monuments and memorials, why just the U.S. ones? I understand/agree it might be easier to develop just the U.S. ones, but I prefer it to include all, open-endedly. The complementary list-article(s) would be awkward: "List of SAW m and m NOT in the United States"? Separate ones for Cuba, Spain, the Philippines, etc? But any which way, despite most of the U.S. not knowing it, PR is part of the U.S. --Doncram (talk) 19:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, the article title is general; i was confused from the category Category:Spanish–American War memorials in the United States, which I thought was the title of the list-article. --Doncram (talk) 19:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's because we have only found the ones in mainland USA so far, but we are hoping to expand it to other countries too. (I meant mainland USA by the way.)Zigzig20s (talk) 19:16, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish language Wikipedia articles[edit]

es:Héroes de Cavite or https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9roes_de_Cavite is one of the relevant Spanish-language Wikipedia articles that turns up in searches. Worth translating to create an English-language wikipedia article, perhaps Heroes of Cavite or Heroes of Cavite and Santiago de Cuba or Monumento a los Héroes de Cavite y Santiago.

In "Categoría:Monumentos conmemorativos de la Guerra hispano-estadounidense", there also are:

es:Monumento a Bucky O'Neill, about sculpture at courthouse in Prescott, Arizona, corresponds to English wikipedia Bucky O'Neill Monument
es:Monumento a las víctimas del Maine, Havana, Cuba, with photos from 1930 and 2009 that I had not found when covering this item within this list-article. It contradicts my understanding that "The monument was removed after the Cuban Revolution when relations with the U.S. deteriorated", which I based on this source in Spanish; maybe only the figural sculptures atop the columns were removed. English article might be created at Monument to the Victims of the Maine, perhaps.

Anyhow there might be more ES language articles, too, if their category is not perfectly implemented. And browsing in es:Categoría:Monumentos por localidad might be fruitful to expand other list-articles of monuments and memorials. --Doncram (talk) 20:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another spanish one[edit]

Photo at right found in https://wikivisually.com/lang-es/wiki/Guerra_hispano-estadounidense. By coordinates with the photo, it is located in a cemetery in Province of Pontevedra, in Galicia region of Spain in or near the neighborhood/community of Castrelos (Castrelos redirects to Castrelos e Carrazedo in Portugal), in or near the city of Vigo. Not sure what this is yet, but came up when trying search on "Philippines monument Guerra hispano-estadounidense". Have no Philippines monuments yet. --Doncram (talk) 21:24, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, photo title translates as "The Red Cross of Vigo to the repatriated soldiers of Cuba and the Philippines who died in this city 1898"; perhaps wounded soldiers/sailors were brought back to here and died in hospital. --Doncram (talk) 00:17, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Doncram, As you noted in the translatkon, the statue is from The Red Cross of Vigo. That is, the city of Vigo in Spain was honored by being given a Red Cross for caring for and repatriating Spanish soldiers returning from Cuba at the end of the war. The statue is in a cemetery in Vigo which I have visited several times. This monument is in that cemetery and it honors several of the soldiers who died upon their return to the city of Vigo in Spain of ailments they contracted in Cuba.

A link to a website about the cemetery that has several pictures of this monument follows

https://www.guiategalicia.com/el-arte-funerario-del-cementerio-de-pereiro-vigo/

A link to the FindAGrave memorial follows

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/197332903/spanish_american_war-guerra_con_estados_unidos-veterans_veteranas Jvas41 (talk) 01:37, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This monument was created in honor of the Spanish soldiers returning to Spain at the end of the war. It marks the grave of many who died upon arrival in the large port city of Vigo. Jvas41 (talk) 16:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine-American War monuments and memorials[edit]

We will need to create another list for the Philippine–American War: List of Philippine–American War monuments and memorials.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhere I saw an assertion that there are no U.S. monuments to that war, because it was unjustified and unpopular. The Spanish-American war was itself unjustified, and for the U.S. then to turn on the rebels in the Philippines who had been fighting Spain for years, was worse. As noted in this list-article now, the Dewey Arch in NYC was actually torn down as Dewey became unpopular in the continuation there. Maybe hold off on creating a list-article until we know that there are enough to list, i.e. any decent number of members of Category:Philippine–American War memorials (was a redlink, now created and has one member, Fountain for Company H). --Doncram (talk) 00:28, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This thread at TripAdvisor from 2010, someone looking for any such memorials to visit led me to Battle of Tirad Pass#Memorials, which has some coverage:

Gregorio del Pilar's tomb (Bulacan Provincial Capitol plaza and his equestrian statue).

"In honor of Del Pilar's heroism, the Philippine Military Academy was named Fort Del Pilar and a historical marker placed at the site of the battle." --> fort plus marker plus statue at Gregorio del Pilar's tomb.
"The Battle of Tirad Pass and the death of Del Pilar was also commemorated during World War II when the Japanese-backed government of President José P. Laurel sought to re-kindle anti-American sentiment by reviving memories of the Philippine-American War with the creation of the Tirad Pass Medal. The design of the obverse (front) of the medal included a bust of Del Pilar and a view of Tirad Pass. The design of the reverse (back) includes the date 1944. The Tirad Pass Medal was the only military medal or decoration issued by the Laurel government during the Japanese occupation." (Basso, Aldo P. (1975), Coins, Medals and Tokens of the Philippines 1728–1974, 2nd Edition, Bookman Printing House). --> medal is a kind of memorial, and this is an interesting one.
Also there are two memorials shown in photos in Gregorio del Pilar article: one at his birthplace and one at "Plaza del Pilar (Bulacan, Bulacan: The site where Spanish forces surrendered to Gregorio del Pilar on June 24, 1898 - June 24, 1998 market-monument)." I guess this is adding up enough to start a list-article, though it may not ever be a very long one. --Doncram (talk) 01:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Scope of Article[edit]

I'm not clear on the scope of this article. Is it to list monuments and memorials related to the conflict created by all parties to the conflict inclduing related memorials created by the US located in and outside of the US and monuments for example created by Spain located in and outside of Spain? Jvas41 (talk) 16:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]