Talk:List of U.S. jurisdictions banning conversion therapy

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New York information[edit]

I just corrected inaccurate information about New York. Contrary to the information that had been placed on this page, New York has not banned conversion therapy by executive regulation. The Cuomo Administration has issued regulations "[banning] public and private health care insurers from covering the practice [of conversion therapy] in New York State [and prohibiting] New York mental health facilities from conducting the practice on minors" (see http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/06/politics/andrew-cuomo-conversion-therapy-new-york/index.html). This is not an outright ban. The map should be corrected as well.

74.76.164.230 (talk) 01:29, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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New color-coding for map[edit]

The map is eventually going to need an update on its color-coding, as California appears likely to approve legislation banning conversion therapy for both children AND adults. http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gay-conversion-therapy-services-would-1524162085-htmlstory.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by WowItsTrue (talk • contribs) 22:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Info about Hawaii[edit]

So, Hawaii Legislature has recently passed a bill banning conversion therapy for minors. I just thought I would share this info so we can update this page if it becomes law. More info here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hawaii-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-for-minors_us_5ae71f55e4b04aa23f256ff2 --The Young Skeptic (talk) 23:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's mentioned already under the section "pending legislation". It can be moved once the governor signed it. SPQRobin (talk) 23:46, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Failed legislation[edit]

@Ron 1987: I can think of several pages where failed legislation is included, e.g. Employment Non-Discrimination Act (most bills not even voted on), Same-sex union legislation (only bills that were voted on and did or did not pass), National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (all bills that were voted on in at least one chamber). So including here only failed bills that were passed and vetoed, is still less inclusive than these mentioned pages. Of course it doesn't mean we must include it, but I am pointing out the very different standards. And I'm more of an inclusionist, so I'd rather keep it. In fact, this being an encyclopedia, you could even argue having historical information like that (which doesn't change anymore) is more relevant than updating the latest pending bill that may or may not pass. SPQRobin (talk) 09:43, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Late to the meeting, but I also agree. Legislative precedent is extremely important, and provides context for the rush of introduced bills seen during each year's legislative sessions. Bills that passed one house in particular shouldn't be ignored, when mere proposals from less likely areas (without any attached legislation or dates) are archived. Every state that previously passed bills have lawmakers with 'proposals' for reintroduction -- but aren't listed here because they have a concrete bill with set session dates, and not hypothetical ideas that can remain on this page for years. Nin10dude317 (talk) 20:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really late to the party, but agreed as well. See, I know that in the most recent legislative session (2019-2020), a Kansas House representative introduced a bill to ban conversion therapy, but when it was introduced, it was immediately referred to committee, and then died at the end of the regular session in May. But I don't know if I should add it to the page, because so far, Minnesota is the only state to be listed on the article, and it got voted on. It failed, but it got voted on. Surely, we must be enough between @SPQRobin:, @Nin10dude317:, and myself to add in failed legislation that died in committee. Jcb cummings (talk) 04:31, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pending bans in Indiana[edit]

Hey all - Wikipedia noob posting from the ACLU of IN. We've had two separate bans proposed here this session as of today: HB 1231 and SB 284

Posting here in case it is useful for the pending legis section.

Kitchen666 (talk) 16:55, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for dropping by! Looks like another contributor has gotten to it, but thanks for the heads up! Nin10dude317 (talk) 05:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

North Carolina[edit]

NC governor has signed an executive order banning "use of state, federal funds" for conversion therapy. I believe it should be added to the article.[1] --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pending legislation[edit]

Moving this line here, as it seems to be quite outdated.

"Conversion therapy bans on minors are proposed or pending in Sarasota, Florida;<ref>{{cite news|last=Barrero|first=Laura|date=March 22, 2018|title=Should Conversion Therapy be Banned in Sarasota?|publisher=[[WWSB]]|url=http://www.mysuncoast.com/community/should-conversion-therapy-be-banned-in-sarasota/article_a631ea8c-2e43-11e8-bf6b-c3e16dda55b9.html|url-status=dead|access-date=April 8, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180408210052/http://www.mysuncoast.com/community/should-conversion-therapy-be-banned-in-sarasota/article_a631ea8c-2e43-11e8-bf6b-c3e16dda55b9.html|archive-date=April 8, 2018}}</ref> and St. Petersburg, Florida.<ref name="Tampa">{{Cite news|last=Bradshaw|first=Kate|date=April 7, 2017|title=As Tampa unanimously passes anti-gay conversion "therapy" ban, St. Pete lays groundwork for its own|work=Creative Loafing Tampa|publisher=[[SouthComm Communications]]|url=https://www.cltampa.com/news-views/local-news/article/20857457/as-tampa-unanimously-passes-antigay-conversion-therapy-ban-st-pete-lays-groundwork-for-its-own|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180103043453/https://www.cltampa.com/news-views/local-news/article/20857457/as-tampa-unanimously-passes-antigay-conversion-therapy-ban-st-pete-lays-groundwork-for-its-own|archive-date=January 3, 2018}}</ref>"

A few proposed changes[edit]

I have a few changes I'd like to propose. Pinging Ron 1987, Jedi Friend, Nin10dude317, and SPQRobin – active editors – just to get the ball rolling.

1) I think we should move pending legislation into the actual lists themselves and that we should give them a color (I used I used #90edb0, a spring green, in this demonstration) to distinguish them from others. I would have no issue keeping the article up-to-date on these, and they aren't frequent enough that it's going to overwhelm the list or be a massive effort to maintain. There might be two or three at most in the 'Counties, municipalities and communities' one at any time, two at most in 'States', and probably one or two at most in 'Territories'.

2) I used #ffb069, a light orange, to indicate that a ban has been suspended under a decision by the 11th Circuit. Should more courts overturn such bans in different areas, this could simply be generalized as "Ban suspended under a court decision".

3) We could incorporate states that have banned funds going to conversion therapy designated by another color (I used #ffc1cc, bubblegum pink).

X) I think we should implement these three colors (or some variation thereof) into the map. For example, the counties and cities in Florida would be orange instead of blue, and we could use that spring green on the map to indicate where. Likewise, we could have the color of those states where public funding toward conversion therapy has been banned be a specific color, but in places that have also banned the practice altogether, it would still be blue. For example, Michigan would be bubblegum except in cities like East Lansing where it's been banned, which would remain blue. Since I know, Jedi, that any of these three would put more on your plate, I'd be willing to learn how to update the map as well to balance out the workload.

I especially like 1) and 3) because it drastically declutters the article from 'Failed legislation' onward. 2) is there because it's extremely relevant that these jurisdictions in Florida, until further notice, can no longer enforce their ordinances.

Penny for your thoughts. =) TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 19:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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