Talk:List of best-selling Super Nintendo Entertainment System video games

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Tetris & Dr. Mario[edit]

The claim that Tetris & Dr. Mario has sold 6 million copies is questionable. There is seemingly only one such reference online, which this page links to. However, this is not an official site. In fact, it looks like a private blog. Arguably, this claim would need to be corroborated. Prima facie, it seems hard to believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.22.107.196 (talk) 23:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

F-Zero[edit]

Hello, (Sorry for my english, I'm french) I think that F-Zero should be in this list, according to VGChartz (but it's not a very very reliable site). 95.176.47.164 (talk) 16:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copies sold[edit]

It says for donkey kong country 2 about the copies sold: (4.37 million approximately: 2.21 million in Japan,[7] 2.16 million in US)[8] So this means only copies sold in japan and the US? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.134.117.186 (talk) 14:50, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Casper included by mistake[edit]

I'm going to remove Casper from this list, as I believe it was included by mistake. Here's my logic:

The reference linked to justify Casper's 1 million sales leads to: http://www.oecd.org/internet/ieconomy/32145714.pdf That's a FunCom document, citing their sales for "Casper (the friendly ghost)", with a date of 1996 and no other info.

However, there are multiple, distinct Casper games to come out around that time. (All of which are confusingly grouped under one Wikipedia page.)

  • Casper: The Movie, released December 31, 1995, by Natsume for SNES.
  • Casper, released May 16, 1996, by KSS for SNES.
  • Casper - A Haunting 3D Challenge, released September 10, 1996 by Interplay for Sega Saturn.
  • Casper - A Haunting 3D Challenge, released August 10, 1996 by Interplay for PlayStation.
  • Casper: The Movie, released May 12, 1996 by Interplay for 3DO.

All of those were from these links: http://www.ign.com/companies/natsume http://www.ign.com/companies/kss http://www.ign.com/companies/interplay

I believe the FunCom developed version of Casper, to which that document refers, is the "A Haunting 3D Challenge" version published by Interplay for PlayStation and Sega Saturn, NOT for SNES. This page links the developer and publisher: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/196879-casper/data

I can find no reference to a Casper game, released on the SNES, and developed by FunCom (and therefore justified by the reference link), so I'm going to remove it from this list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.57.40 (talk) 20:20, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Super Metroid[edit]

I'm removing Super Metroid from this list.

  • The source provided is from N-Sider, which is not considered a reliable source under WP:VG/S#Unreliable sources. This archived message posted by Prime Blue also explains why N-Sider should not be used as a source.
  • The game was included in the list selling a one-million copies, but the N-Sider source never specify how much it sold. Instead it said: "Super Metroid was eventually given "Player's Choice" status in North America for the Super Nintendo. Player's Choice titles are specially-priced million-selling games."

It's highly unlikely that we find a reliable source on recent sales figure. I can't find any reliable sources via this search engine. Therefore, Super Metroid should not be listed. Any editor who wishes to re-add the game to the list (and has a reliable source to back up) should discuss it here first. Thanks. – // Hounder4 // 03:29, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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CESA white paper[edit]

@Andre666, where did you find the 2004 CESA white paper? ISBN 4-902346-04-4/OCLC 169961334 is not showing any international holdings. The CESA listing doesn't have more than excerpts. Additionally, are the sources of its contents clear? Are they reported directly from the manufacturer? czar 00:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gizmodo Mario article[edit]

O'Malley, James (September 11, 2015). "30 Best-Selling Super Mario Games of All Time on the Plumber's 30th Birthday". Gizmodo. Retrieved April 23, 2017.

@Andre666, are these Gizmodo numbers accurate? Per its disclaimer,

A note on methodology: Whilst we're fairly confident in these figures, we have compiled them from a number of sources. For example, it is unclear whether Virtual Console re-releases affect it - but broadly speaking, the list and ranked positions speak to the magnitude of the success of each title.

This isn't citeable for definitive numbers in this list, which is prone to citogenesis where official/accurate numbers might not have ever been released. Courtesy ping @TheJoebro64, per [1] czar 00:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Czar, my understanding is that the figure for All-Stars originates from the CESA white paper, either the 2004 or 2005 one. The Wii version's numbers were reported separately (2.24 million by 2011 if I remember correctly), and All-Stars didn't receive a Virtual Console rerelease. JOEBRO64 00:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@TheJoebro64, thanks. Have you verified against the white paper? We're putting a lot of credence in it for an inaccessible industry document without direct citations from secondary sources. czar 01:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't. When I was researching Mario All-Stars last year, I checked the VG Sales Wiki to find sales numbers, and that wiki cited the white paper. VG Sales Wiki is extremely accurate when it comes to sales numbers and I almost always check it when writing so I can use the sources it cites. However, since I couldn't access the white paper myself, I just used Google to find an article that did mention the number, and that Gizmodo article showed up.
I know ResetEra isn't a reliable source (far from it), but this post about sales numbers, which says the info comes from Nintendo's PR department, also mentions the 10.55 million. I know we shouldn't really trust this because it's a random forum poster, but I checked Nintendo's website and it is very consistent with what sales info they provide there; also, ResetEra is pretty strict when it comes to posting trade information like that and will remove posts that can't be verified. JOEBRO64 16:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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