Talk:List of boiling and freezing information of solvents

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HELP!!![edit]

I found the data but I can't make a table. PLEASE HELP!!! See the EDIT PAGE thing to see how the table is made. Also, I can't do subscripts (for K subscript b) or degree signs (for degrees C), so assistance is also required there. Thanks for all who contribute after this.Ctifumdope 01:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't think this article should exist. This data should be at the articles of the respective substances. —Keenan Pepper 03:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and it many (most?) cases, it already is. --BluePlatypus 03:59, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to take a look at the Solvent page to see an example of how to make tabes. For subscripts use a <sub> element in the edit:

<b>K<sub>b</sub></b> yeilds: K_b

When you edit a page, there is a list of commonly used glyphs right below the Save page button. The ° symbol is listed--just click on it to insert into the current edit. EricR 04:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a good article, it just needs some table doing. -- Mac Davis] ⌇☢ ญƛ. 04:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Deletion[edit]

Instead of "boiling constant," the more common name seems to be "boiling point elevation constant." This information is not in any of the articles (is it?), nor is there currently a way to incorporate it into the chemboxes (is there?). Ardric47 02:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am therefore removing the prod template and suggest merging the information (somehow). Ardric47 02:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"(-)"??[edit]

What does the (-) following some of the values? This should be explained under the table. --LakeHMM 04:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had some formatting issues with my computer when I first made this article so that the negative signs in the front resulted in something really weird occurring. So, to encompass the negative values that exist, I put the parenthesis with the negative sign AFTER the actual numerical value itself. Ctifumdope 14:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed that using a different dash character that doesn't interfere with table rendition. Karl Hahn (T) (C) 23:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs reference(s)[edit]

Where did this data come from? Please post a reference. Karl Hahn (T) (C) 23:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I broke out some books and found references for some of the data (and added some new solvents where I found data). I've added a data-source column and filled it in where I could. There are still some unreferenced entries. Anybody who has references for these, please fill them in. Karl Hahn (T) (C) 04:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Releventness of this table / Proposing merging with the "solvent" article[edit]

Some of the information listed in this table is already present in the table in "solvent" article. Why not merge them into one single table?

Also, some compounds listed in this table, such as camphor, Naphthalene are solid in room temperature. They are not solvents. Some commonly used solvents such as methanol, dimethylformamide or tetrahydrofuran are not present in table too - they already contained in the "solvent" article, which is another reason to merge these into a single table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.1.215.200 (talk) 20:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with merging. It would be better to expand this list, and just keep a short table of the most common solvents in the solvent article. Perhaps this article could be expanded in scope by adding other information such as dielectric constants, and renaming it to list of solvents. Finally, there's nothing wrong with having solvents which are solids (or even gases!) at room temperature. Not all experiments are done at room temperature, you know... --Itub (talk) 13:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, don't merge. This is specifically a list of freezing points and boiling points. It would make sense that if there was an agreement that there should even be some kind of a merger, we should split the information and add them to the two articles: freezing point depression and boiling point elevation. Further, this information is too specific to simply merge with solvents, as this table only touches upon a small aspect of the broader subject of "solvents".
I agree with Itub that we leave it here, but expand this list and add a paragraph at the top explaining the freezing points and boiling points of the solvents listed, and why these points are important.
Since it has been over a year proposing the merge, I suggest that the merge tag be removed, once we can add a short paragraph at the top explaining why the table is relevant.
I also propose that the title of the page be changed to Solvent Boiling and Freezing Points. --Chÿna 19:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChÿnaDragön (talk • contribs)

the table should be merged with the solvent section as it belongs to all solvents and table is quite general. having the information on respective solvent pages is different than a collective table.

Number checking[edit]

I don't have a reference available but from what I could deduce some of these numbers are wrong. Also should the cyroscopic constants be negative? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.1.95 (talk) 15:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not on wiki much, so I'm not sure exactly how to propose this - but this information has to be taken down or radically changed. I don't know if the column for freezing point is simply mislabeled, but for goodness sakes the freezing point of water is 0 degrees C not F! No info is better than WRONG info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.231.131.253 (talk) 03:11, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't panic, it was just that someone vandalized this page recently. Such is the nature of Wikipedia. I've reverted those changes. --Itub (talk) 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:List of boiling and freezing information of solvents/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Water boiling point is given as 100 in a column headed degrees Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit boiling point of water is 212.0, freezing 32.0. I don't know if the other materials' boiling/freezing points are all Fahrenheit so I can't correct the entry. Please somebody who knows take over. Thanks. Vickindeed (talk) 02:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 02:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 22:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Numeric sorting?[edit]

I've tried to get https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Sorting working, and it may work for positive numbers, but it's definitely using lexicographic order for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables#Negative_numbers, but that may be because the dashes used are non-numeric.

The numeric dash issue can be solved with a space between the start of the line and the standard dash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcint (talk • contribs) 02:39, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]