Talk:List of countries and dependencies by number of police officers

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UN recommended number of police officers[edit]

This article previously included a line as to the UN recommended number of police officers, citing page 135 of http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Crime-statistics/International_Statistics_on_Crime_and_Justice.pdf. As I can find no reference to any such number on the article in question, I've removed the line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crimsoneer (talkcontribs) 22:00, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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In my mind there is an error in your table of your list of countries by size of police forces. The category "Officers per Capita" must renamed in "Inhabitants per Officer" because you say for example for Australia, that there are 351 Officers pro 1 Person. That doesn´t make sense. :)

Michael Belzer —Preceding unsigned comment added by MBelzer (talkcontribs) 07:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What does 'coverage' mean? 98.245.101.161 (talk) 03:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Police force size[edit]

I removed the dubious tag since it is unwarranted as the source is CSIS which is reliable enough.--119.153.95.95 (talk) 15:04, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK[edit]

Why is UK not listed? I mean it is listed but the numbers are split into subdivisions. Thanks like separating US down to individual states. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 23:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

It is listed and split into several of its nation states. That's clearly nothing comparable to US individual states of which there are 50 in case you'd forgotten, and they aren't countries. 86.17.241.109 (talk) 19:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus and Russia figures[edit]

I've updated figures for Russia as after the Russian police reform and population increase following the Russian Census (2010). The figure, however includes all Ministry of Internal Affairs workers - how much of them are actually Russian police workers or police officers (rather than supporting personnel - police buildings cleaners etc.) is unclear.

I've removed Belarus figures completely - one source comes from an oppositional site and apparently just repeats the figure of the other source, which apparently was rather loose-termed study including paramilitary and border guards into "police". [1] GreyHood Talk 18:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Belarus link seems to be based on a reasonably solid, Russian-university based study. Obviously with secretive states, or indeed with any measure of this nature, there's always going to be a level of uncertainty around the methodology of studies, but it seems sufficient for inclusion. On the Russian figures, the last formal declaration appears to be 1994, but the link you've cited is useful. However the 786k figure is the number of Police officers to be funded, while the other figures often cited appear to be national "Police Forces" e.g. including Police staff (the article could perhaps benefit from being more specific on that definition). This suggests the official figure from the link is 'up to 1.1m'. The wiki page on Russian police cites 914k in 2014, but that has no citation, and the figure doesn't seem to appear on other articles. Would you agree that the link we do have suggests the 1.1m to be the 'Police forces' figure?Marty jar (talk) 23:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New column[edit]

It would be nice to have an extra column with cost per 100.000 people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.125.103.168 (talk) 17:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

India[edit]

The numbers are clearly wrong: if it has 5M policemen and 130 per 100000, then half of Earth lives in India. Hatifnatter (talk) 19:05, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. B-watchmework (talk) 21:27, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the number format for India is nonstandard. It lists "9,27,541", pulled directly from the source. Is this nine million twenty-seven thousand five hundred forty-one, or is it nine hundred twenty-seven thousand five hundred forty one? What a difference that missing zero can make. (It may be the local standard to omit leading zeroes for each set of 3 digits and trust the commas, but it isn't in any English-speaking countries I know of.) 24.69.217.16 (talk) 07:48, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The number of policemen is 927,541. In India, we add a comma at thousands and then after every two digits, there are no zeros omitted. So the number is not 9 million. It is 9 lakh 27 thousand 541. All the confusion is because of the difference in comma system.--98.215.110.140 (talk) 04:12, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

INCORRECT TITLE OF THE ARTICLE.[edit]

Not all the policemen are officers. Officers are the senior personnel in police and army. There are much more privates, corporals, gefreitors ans sergeants. The article must be named as "List of countries by number of policemen"

Why is the United States Data incorrect?[edit]

On April 26 2015 it is listed as 780,000 and the source is from the bureau of labor statistics. But if we look at the Bureau of Justice statistics we see that it is significantly more than that.

1,100,000 cops just from state and local agencies in 2008. They are supposed to do the study every 4 years. The last census was in 2008, but for some reason we do not have access to the 2012 census?!?! That seems weird. Source: http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf

120,000 cops at the federal level in 2008. So there is 1,220,000 cops in the united states, not 780,000. The stated figure is off by almost 75%. Source: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fleo08.pdf

That means that the per capita of cops is not 248 per 100,000. It is 393 cops per 100,000 and this is going only from the 2008 figures. Police agencies expanded since that time. 2602:306:33B0:AC0:89D9:8FD0:8D8B:5A74 (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The current article indicates only 120,000 US officers. This leaves out all state and local officers apparently. There is no single reliable sources for exact number of total law enforcement officers in the US, due to reporting issues and differing definitions of what qualifies as an "officer." The best estimate among well informed criminal justice professionals is that there are between 900,000 and 1 million sworn law enforcement officers currently working in the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.142.82.78 (talk) 03:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

" So there is 1,220,000 cops in the united states, not 780,000."

No your figure is off I'm afraid by that amount, claiming such a ridiculous difference in the US's people per police officer statistic would be laughable. 86.17.241.109 (talk) 19:50, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The number in the chart doesn't even match the number in the citation.

The number in the chart (686,665) matches the number of "total officers" listed in the reference. The higher number includes other employees, and this page is directed to "number of police officers." "Officers," not employees. No need to include other employees like HR, janitors, mechanics, tech support, and so on.

The FBI says there are 670,279 officer and 956,941 total law enforcement employees.We should compare apples to apples here, what do the other countries report? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ausman (talkcontribs) 03:01, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated vandalism[edit]

There are very high levels of vandalism from posters who haven't signed in. The nature of the the topic and the large amount of data involved makes this a particular problem.

Frankly it looks like this page may need partial protection in future.Marty jar (talk) 23:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Number for Canada (200/202)[edit]

I stumbled upon this article from 2012: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/canadas-police-among-the-best-paid-in-the-world/article535381/ which says "There are now 200 officers for every 100,000 people". In this article it says 202 and I'm not sure how precise the news article from that website is so I'll refrain from editing it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NumericalWarfare (talkcontribs) 20:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden[edit]

Number of swedish police officers and others employed directly by the Swedish Police Authority (Polismyndigheten) can be found in their own documents with numbers updated til last year.

I think the article should be updated with this number. I also think that the total number of employeed by the Swedish Police Authority should be mentioned in the article since I belive many of these, if not all, in most other countries would be labeled as police assistants and counted as police officers.

https://polisen.se/Aktuellt/Rapporter-och-publikationer/Statistik/Publicerat---Nationellt/Polisens-personal/Antal-anstallda-2000---2013/

CS 10:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect data by Russian Federation[edit]

The MVD is not a police, police is one of many departaments of MVD [2]. For example, MVD have own army in which calls all russian citizens over 18 yeaes old... 82.208.101.13 (talk) 19:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

147.000.000 / 756.000 = 194. How do you get 516 ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.80.85.231 (talk) 13:19, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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