Talk:List of knife attacks by Islamic extremists

Initial edits[edit]

I think the page is worthwhile. Should it be published, the list would stretch to hundreds of events. I know of a few dozen. Please let me know if you publish it, in order to be able to contribute. XavierItzm (talk) 02:06, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@XavierItzm: please feel free to add as much as you want to the page now. {MordeKyle} ☢ 02:24, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, except I'd rather invest the time after it actually is live! XavierItzm (talk) 02:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@XavierItzm: the problem is getting it live. This page(like most pages on Islamic extremism) will face a lot of push back and is almost guaranteed to be a apart of CSD and AfD. So the more mature the article is when published, the better the chances it gets to stay. {MordeKyle} ☢ 02:32, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I hear you. I'll add a bit this week or week-end. In the meantime, sorry I did not do proper formatting, but I don't know how to do tables. XavierItzm (talk) 02:41, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@XavierItzm: you can just copy/paste the tables from the other sections if needed. Then you can just extrapolate the syntax out. If you can't figure it out, you can just add the fields of data to the page and I can do the formatting, it doesn't matter. I'll try to add some as well, though I'm not very knowledgeable on the history of the subject. {MordeKyle} ☢ 02:53, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I added an incident. Suggestions: death toll appears to omit perp, that needs to be clarified. Suggest European date format (1 December 2016), since most of these have been East of the Atlantic. Will it be limited to blue-linked incidents? Consider inclusion of incidents with min. 2 WP:RS along with bluelinked incidents. Parameters for inclusion need to be plainly articulated. Know that creating a list inevitably encourages certain editors to attempt to delete articles on the grounds that including in list is sufficient. Nice project. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:39, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and, use of vehicle followed by stabbing is actually quite rare. too rare to be in lede. I'll try to help.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:42, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest defining "stabbing attack" as including attacks with blade weapons, 2014 Queens hatchet attack.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good, thanks for your edits and help with this. And ya, I was thinking we needed to add some sort of asterisk or something to clarify the death toll. What do you think is best, to include the death of the perp or not? {MordeKyle} ☢ 20:13, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable events[edit]

Reutlingen knife attack – this one was a Syrian asylum seeker, but the article does not mention Islamis extremism
Munich knife attack – this one says a mentally disturbed man yelled "Allahu Akbar" but there was no real link to Islamic extremism
2016 Russell Square stabbing – this one was done by a Somali refugee, who was Muslim and showed interest in Islamic Theology, but sources say he was just mentally disturbed
Tapuah Junction stabbing (2010) – killing of Israeli soldier by Palestinian Authority police.
Tapuah Junction stabbing (2013) – killing of Jewish father by Palestinian man who had just been released from Israeli prison after serving time for planting explosives along border.

Feel free to add to the above. I also welcome input into the inclusion of these events. {MordeKyle} ☢ 20:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You can search and improve those articles if you find RS supporting Islamist terrorism as motive. I see that you are new-ish, you may not be aware that at the bottom of the pages on incidents on the list, are categories of stabbing attacks by year where you will find others that can be added. I think your first priority should be to create a stronger lede, on the model of the two lists you cited.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic, thanks for that info, that will be very helpful. {MordeKyle} ☢ 21:07, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

I made changes to the lead, what do you guys think? {MordeKyle} ☢ 22:59, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

going live[edit]

You should move it to main space. click the "more" tab at top of page, then click "move" ; box on the lefr will read draft" scroll until it reads": article. The article name should be in the other box. under that you type a "reason", I usually write something like, " creating new article" Then click the blue "move page"E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:46, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@E.M.Gregory: thank you for you input and your edits. {MordeKyle} ☢ 20:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I added another incident.XavierItzm (talk) 23:49, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]