Talk:Lost (South Korean TV series)

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On 21 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Lost (2021 TV series). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 21 June 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 06:46, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lost (South Korean TV series) → Lost (2021 TV series) – For consistency with Lost (2001 TV series) and Lost (2004 TV series). It is strange that two of the shows (the American ones) are disambiguated by year with no nationality provided, while the third is disambiguated by nation with no year provided. See also the similar recent RMs for Talk:Friends (2021 TV series) and Talk:Wings (1977 TV series). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 06:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Per WP:NCTVUS, and since there are only three TV series titled Lost per Lost#Television. ⁠Accireioj (talk) 07:39, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing out that convention. However, I think it is describing what to do when one of the two cases applies (more than one country or more than one starting year in a single country), not when there is a combination of both types, which would lead to inconsistent titles and apparent missing information in article titles for shows with the same name. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 09:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I think this should be clarified in WT:TV-NC first for bigger discussion. On the side note, regarding Talk:Friends (2021 TV series) and Talk:Wings (1977 TV series) for the recent moves—Friends (2021 TV program) was moved to Friends (2021 TV series), and Wings (1988 TV program) was moved to Wings (1988 TV series): Aren't these actually incorrect naming style, since both are non-series television? Accireioj (talk) 06:42, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You might be right about that, at least for Wings (1988 TV series), if not for Friends (2021 TV series). I wasn't aware that a "series" is expected (on Wikipedia) to have a continuing narrative with a story-line connection between episodes. I also suspect many readers would not make or recognize such a distinction, so I wonder whether that distinction should be considered sufficient for disambiguation purposes. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:19, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Series is absolutely not "expected" under NCTV – series should be used for "TV series" with continuing storylines; otherwise "(TV program)" should be used (e.g. for news or documentary TV programs). Wings (1988 TV series) should absolutely have been moved to Wings (1988 TV program) – this is what happens when members of WP:NCTV/WP:TV are not involved in WP:RM discussions. Add: In fact, that whole Wings WP:RM was wrongly decided – both moves are contrary to WP:NCTV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:31, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support per WP:CONSISTENT. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Actually, also as per WP:CONSISTENT, which clearly states "There are two main areas, however, where Wikipedians have consistently shown that consistency does not control, the first of which is Disambiguation. The example is as thus: [J]ust because Georgia (country) exists, there is no reason to have articles titled, for instance, Azerbaijan (country), Armenia (country), etc. To paraphrase this for the current situation: Just because Lost (2001 TV series) exists, there is no reason to have articles titled, for instance, Lost (2021 TV series), etc. Therefore, this RM is based on the issue of disambiguation, which CONSISTENT does not cover. Therefore, we use WP:NCTVUS. -- Alex_21_TALK 10:19, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as per WP:NCTV and Alex21's point – we decided long ago in NCTV that WP:RECOGNIZABLE was significantly more important than WP:CONSISTENCY and that "by country" definition is more recognizable. The only reason the two U.S. series use "by year" disambig. is because by country can't be used with these two here. Also, for the record, I strongly believe that the 2004 TV series is the "primary subtopic" here, and should be at Lost (TV series) with a hatnote. (The 2001 series was barely a blip on the radar...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"Lost (2021 TV series" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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