Talk:Lucknow/GA3

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Dharmadhyaksha (talk · contribs) 11:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will do minor corrections myself while reviewing the article. But on cursory glancing through, this one seems to need a lot of work before passing GA and chunks of trivial/travel-guide/yellow-pages like sections need to go away. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After deletion of a long unsourced list from "Notable individuals", I don't understand why list of shopping malls and historical places should also be included. This is not yellow pages and historical places can be mentioned in prose in "History" section itself.
Similarly with "Press", "Radio" and "Internet". Where will these yellow pages directories stop? Such media houses are obviously common in large cities. Unless some house originates from Lucknow, I see no reason to list down all this trivia. YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. The trivial list still remains along with few unsourced stuff and external links.

The section "Sister cities of Lucknow" has no prose in it and I frankly don't understand what a sister city is and without that the section is worthless.YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:13, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. The content doesn't establish why it exists there. Also, unsourced stuff exists in it.

"Parks and recreation" section reads more like a tourist guide. Individual subheads under this should be removed and small condensed prose should be made. YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done. Section is based on non-RS references.

Lots of information in the infobox is unsourced.
"Quality of life" is based on one non-notable survey and should also be deleted.YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. The survey in itself should be notable to find mention here. Marketing agencies and electronic companies aren't really noteworthy of making such surveys.

These sources are not really WP:RS: indiamapia.com, indiaonlinepages.com, lucknowonline.com, maharajas-express-india.com, citymayors.com, lucknow.me, laxys.com, lucknowcity.com, visitlucknow, importantindia.com, Newkerala.com, iloveindia.com, lucknow.org, indianfoodsguide.com, thealternative.in, lucknowlive12.blogspot.in, joshgroup.blogspot.in, lucknow-chikan-house.com, Career-info.in, Successcds.net, Cmseducation.org, thelearningpoint.net, oneindia.in, Filmapia.com, KanganaRanautInfo.blogspot.in, Televisionpost.com, Justdial.com, Buzzintown.com, Picnic-spots-parks-lucknow.blogspot.in, stylesatlife.com, formertourist.com
Wikipedia itself is being used as ref in two cases, #78, #79. WP is not RS.
References are not in uniform style. Many bare urls also.YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 14:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
~~Ref #107 and #108 are repetative. YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 14:57, 22 March 2016 (UTC)~~[reply]
Madan Lal Verma 'Krant' Ref #102 is not considered RS.
~~Why is Category:Darul Uloom Nadwatul Ulama included on this page? YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:13, 21 March 2016 (UTC)~~[reply]
The article, on various occassions, mixes up data related to Lucknow city, which is the subject here, with Lucknow district. For example, "Bounded on the east by the Barabanki District, on the west by Unnao District, on the south by Raebareli and in the north by Sitapur and Hardoi" is not right here. " Different varieties of mangoes, especially Dasheri, are grown in the Malihabad block of the district for export" should be mentioned in the Lucknow district article, and so on...YDONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

With so many non-RS references in use, replacing them is going to be a big task and I will continue with the review after that. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:37, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reply * List of shopping malls and historical monuments in included because its an encyclopaedic article. Also, I've seen similar sections on a lot of GA's on Wikis of Indian as well as foreign cities.

You may write the "encyclopedic" stuff in prose but not simply list random names.

There are some newspapers that originated from Lucknow and some media houses headquartered there. All are mentioned. Some radio sections can be omitted, i agree on that.

The Pioneer (newspaper) actually started in Allahabad and not Lucknow.

Sister Cities are quite common on Indian articles. Just see Chennai and Coimbatore.

But make no sense.

Parks and recreation is a common section. Just see New York City. I can refer more but its in vain. Section just shows the characteristics of the park, Its not a tourist guide neither made like one.
Infobox will be mended.
'Quality of Life' is a TOI survey. TOI is a pretty notable newspaper so Non-notable? i don't think so.
Category:Darul Uloom Nadwatul Ulama will be removed.
I agree with the district problem. I will look into it.

All other problems are those which i think are alright. I'll try to mend them all. Thank you. Wikiboy2364 (talk) 08:47, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please ping me when you resolve the non-RS references issue. Until that is done, which is a big problem, I see no value in listing down other problems and continuing with the review. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:40, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Query[edit]

@Dharmadhyaksha: Wikiboy2364 hasn't edited this review—or, indeed, on Wikipedia at all—since March 22. Under the circumstances, I think it's almost certainly time to close this review. Wikiboy2364 can always renominate the article should he return and finish addressing all the fundamental issues you raised above, even if they didn't constitute all of the issues you might have found. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:16, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Failing the GA nomination due to lack of improvement in the article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]